[alt-photo] Re: ware cyanotype paper sensitivity

[Christina Anderson]

Hmmm....this is interesting.

I mean, there is "gyrate" as in ji-rate and we don't say guyrate or gheerate so that is the rub.  But you may be correct.

I would feel bad mispronouncing it all semester :)
Chris

Christina Z. Anderson
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On Jan 11, 2010, at 8:39 AM, John Brewer wrote:

> Chris,
> 
> I think I saw somewhere the pronunciation of gy in Argyrotype was 'guy' tho
> I can't remember the source, James maybe?
> 
> John.
> 
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> Sam,
> I've gotten purple spots with traditional but NOTHING like the gross purple
> fog that happened with Ware's. This was definitely not the wet issue that I
> have seen on my and student work.  It is like an overall haze of mid-shade
> lavender.
> 
> This semester I am having my alt class do cyanotype, argyrotype instead of
> VDB, gum, and pt/pd...I thought I'd switch to argyrotype for a while.  It
> starts in 2 days...
> 
> Does anyone know HOW to pronounce argyrotype---is it ar JI ro type as in HI
> or ar ghee ro type or ar jee ro type???
> 
> It is very cold here--but not as cold as Florida :)  It is about 10 degrees
> right now and dry dry dry so it beat Florida's 34 humidity.  I can't believe
> I went to Florida and never wore a bathingsuit. OR got a tan.
> 
> But I did get LOTS of work done!!! And some excellent time management books,
> too, to start the new year right.
> 
> One tip of which is the two minute rule--if it is a two-minute task, do it
> now.
> Chris
> Christina Z. Anderson
> christinaZanderson.com
> 
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 8:06 AM, sam wang wrote:
> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Have you not gotten "purple fog" with the "cyanotype classic"? I have, and
> attribute it to paper not thoroughly dry when exposed. Or have you come
> across a new bug?
>> 
>> The pre-coated paper and cloth I received years ago from Blue Printables
> all had quite severe blue/green colors but as you said, all exposed and
> developed with no problem.
>> 
>> Sam
>> PS: is it as cold and dry in Montana as it is in SC? Not easy to do any
> alt printing!
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 10, 2010, at 12:19 AM, Christina Anderson wrote:
>> 
>>> Earl,
>>> Did you expose it?  I expose paper that turns blue-green (Fabriano
> Artistico does that to me regularly) and it works just fine. It may be that
> it is duller and lower contrast, though.
>>> 
>>> The problem with unsuitable paper and Ware's was that after exposure and
> developing you will get a yukky purple fog in all the highlights that really
> ruins the print.  But if you add citric acid to the Wares coating mix that
> takes care of that.  1 or 2 drops of 40% citric acid to 1 ml sensitizer or 1
> g. citric acid to 100ml solution.
>>> 
>>> But you won't know if you get yukky purple fog or dull/low contrast blue
> until you expose and develop. At which point, use the citric.
>>> 
>>> Let us know.
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> Christina Z. Anderson
>>> christinaZanderson.com
>>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Earl and Patty Johnson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am new to this list, but I recognize almost all of your names from
> other places. I hope that some of you can shed some light on my situation.
>>>> 
>>>> Today I coated some Mike Ware formula new cyanotype on Arches Aquarelle
> grain satine, and it turned bluish/green before it even dried. I know that
> this sensitizer is sensitive (pun intended) to paper chemistry, but I
> expected this paper to work. Does anyone have experience with this
> combination? Does the paper have an alkali buffer that can be neutralized
> with a soak in something like citric acid solution before coating? Or is my
> cyanotype solution bad and should be discarded? Or is this paper verboten
> for new cyanotype?
>>>> 
>>>> I like the Ware formula - I get six or seven more steps in the Stouffer
> wedge than I do with the traditional formula. However, it is frustrating to
> coat it on expensive paper and see it fog spontaneously.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any comments.
>>>> 
>>>> Earl Johnson
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