[alt-photo] Re: ware cyanotype paper sensitivity

Mon Jan 11 16:12:49 GMT 2010

there's gyrospcope...and then there's gyro, from the greek (purposely 
ignoring the Cyrillic reality here), that has more of a gyuh sound

Christina Anderson wrote:
> Hmmm....this is interesting.
>
> I mean, there is "gyrate" as in ji-rate and we don't say guyrate or gheerate so that is the rub.  But you may be correct.
>
> I would feel bad mispronouncing it all semester :)
> Chris
>
> Christina Z. Anderson
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> On Jan 11, 2010, at 8:39 AM, John Brewer wrote:
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>   
>> Chris,
>>
>> I think I saw somewhere the pronunciation of gy in Argyrotype was 'guy' tho
>> I can't remember the source, James maybe?
>>
>> John.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
>> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf Of
>> Christina Anderson
>> Sent: 11 January 2010 15:19
>> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: ware cyanotype paper sensitivity
>>
>> Sam,
>> I've gotten purple spots with traditional but NOTHING like the gross purple
>> fog that happened with Ware's. This was definitely not the wet issue that I
>> have seen on my and student work.  It is like an overall haze of mid-shade
>> lavender.
>>
>> This semester I am having my alt class do cyanotype, argyrotype instead of
>> VDB, gum, and pt/pd...I thought I'd switch to argyrotype for a while.  It
>> starts in 2 days...
>>
>> Does anyone know HOW to pronounce argyrotype---is it ar JI ro type as in HI
>> or ar ghee ro type or ar jee ro type???
>>
>> It is very cold here--but not as cold as Florida :)  It is about 10 degrees
>> right now and dry dry dry so it beat Florida's 34 humidity.  I can't believe
>> I went to Florida and never wore a bathingsuit. OR got a tan.
>>
>> But I did get LOTS of work done!!! And some excellent time management books,
>> too, to start the new year right.
>>
>> One tip of which is the two minute rule--if it is a two-minute task, do it
>> now.
>> Chris
>> Christina Z. Anderson
>> christinaZanderson.com
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>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 8:06 AM, sam wang wrote:
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>>     
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> Have you not gotten "purple fog" with the "cyanotype classic"? I have, and
>>>       
>> attribute it to paper not thoroughly dry when exposed. Or have you come
>> across a new bug?
>>     
>>> The pre-coated paper and cloth I received years ago from Blue Printables
>>>       
>> all had quite severe blue/green colors but as you said, all exposed and
>> developed with no problem.
>>     
>>> Sam
>>> PS: is it as cold and dry in Montana as it is in SC? Not easy to do any
>>>       
>> alt printing!
>>     
>>> On Jan 10, 2010, at 12:19 AM, Christina Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Earl,
>>>> Did you expose it?  I expose paper that turns blue-green (Fabriano
>>>>         
>> Artistico does that to me regularly) and it works just fine. It may be that
>> it is duller and lower contrast, though.
>>     
>>>> The problem with unsuitable paper and Ware's was that after exposure and
>>>>         
>> developing you will get a yukky purple fog in all the highlights that really
>> ruins the print.  But if you add citric acid to the Wares coating mix that
>> takes care of that.  1 or 2 drops of 40% citric acid to 1 ml sensitizer or 1
>> g. citric acid to 100ml solution.
>>     
>>>> But you won't know if you get yukky purple fog or dull/low contrast blue
>>>>         
>> until you expose and develop. At which point, use the citric.
>>     
>>>> Let us know.
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Christina Z. Anderson
>>>> christinaZanderson.com
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 9, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Earl and Patty Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> I am new to this list, but I recognize almost all of your names from
>>>>>           
>> other places. I hope that some of you can shed some light on my situation.
>>     
>>>>> Today I coated some Mike Ware formula new cyanotype on Arches Aquarelle
>>>>>           
>> grain satine, and it turned bluish/green before it even dried. I know that
>> this sensitizer is sensitive (pun intended) to paper chemistry, but I
>> expected this paper to work. Does anyone have experience with this
>> combination? Does the paper have an alkali buffer that can be neutralized
>> with a soak in something like citric acid solution before coating? Or is my
>> cyanotype solution bad and should be discarded? Or is this paper verboten
>> for new cyanotype?
>>     
>>>>> I like the Ware formula - I get six or seven more steps in the Stouffer
>>>>>           
>> wedge than I do with the traditional formula. However, it is frustrating to
>> coat it on expensive paper and see it fog spontaneously.
>>     
>>>>> Thanks for any comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earl Johnson
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