[alt-photo] Re: Hear, hear - HP Internegs

[G Schmitz]

  No, we say the same thing here in the US, as do most folks around the 
world I suspect.

All I'm saying is that digital has been rejected by many serious artists 
who are the sons and daughters of the digital generation; and for good 
reason IMHO. My "analog" cameras are now worth more than they were 15 
years ago (if you've got a marketplace/free market bent).  The simple 
fact is that my 4x5 neg has resolution beyond anything us civilians can 
buy  (maybe the military can match it - but I doubt it).  But beyond 
that there is an aesthetic difference between film and digital. And I 
don't like the way digital looks.   So what's your point, or didn't I 
make myself clear in my original post?

--g


On 7/14/10 12:31 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
> Huh? It seems you've got up from the wrong side of the bed today... (A
> Turkish saying - meaning's clear I presume.)
>
> Actually it may be the case that digital negatives need as least the same
> level of math (if not more) than film negatives; I haven't seen a single
> workshop participant - who wasn't competent in math/analytic thinking - who
> could understand and apply the principles with ease, at the same time...
>
> If you read the article well it says: "...76x102cm platinum prints..." (~
> 30x40"), I wish you good luck with your film camera / all analogue workflow,
> in making of such huge prints! (Not that I particularty think "bigger is
> better", but, if they think they need to print big for having some people
> notice pt/pd and such, "laissez-faire" then - that will probably bring fresh
> blood into the community.What's hurting you so much!?)
>
> Any new technology / method that promotes alt. printing is welcomed, to me.
> OTOH, I'm not sure if HP is coming up with something actually/genuinely
> "new" in the sense. To me, it just means "we finally have their focus" -
> which is good, no?
>
> Regards,
> Loris.
>
>
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> Schmitz
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> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Hear, hear - HP Internegs
>
> I'm not surprised.  As I'm sure most of you are aware - the children of the
> "digital generation," the daughters and sons of those old folks that
> embraced digital everything - you know, the oldtimers who thought that their
> wizbang computer cameras would save them from doing math have said
> - fuck off (the children that is).  Last time I was in Berkeley, 2010 April,
> I saw more folks shooting film than digital (I don't count phones).  One of
> the hottest classes on many campuses nowadays is wet darkroom.  In other
> words they are telling all you digital geeks to "fuck off" (pardon my
> French)  - the same words I uttered about a decade back.
>
> Have a nice day!  Don't forget to fix your film :) and I do hope Epson
> develops a printer to bail you out.  Guess the folks in marketing are
> reading the tea leaves.
>
> --greg schmitz
>
> On 7/13/10 10:53 PM, Loris Medici wrote:
>> This is very good news; that means we will finalyl have people
>> concerning our specific needs in printer manufacturers R&D
>> departments. (I'm sure Epson will follow them soon...)
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