[alt-photo] Re: potassium phosphate

[Jon Reid]

Just following on this theme... I'm yet to try adding Gold Chloride  
to my mix to see if it cools the tones even more but am confused as  
to the practise. The Alt Photography Book (Chris James?) just says  
add one drop of 5% Gold chloride to the mix but isn't specific about  
whether this replaces one drop of another metal or adds to it. Also,  
what are people's opinions in general to the addition of Gold  
Chloride? I read that it can cause the other metals to start reducing  
out immediately.

Jon

On 29/06/2010, at 4:37 AM, Clay Harmon Website wrote:

> I use this so-called 'cold bath' formula when I am doing workshops.  
> I don't like the idea of having a bunch of people slopping around  
> hot potassium oxalate in a closed space.
>
> I find that the image tone from this developer is actually pretty  
> similar to straight 110degree potassium oxalate when the cold bath  
> is used at room temperature. If it is cold tone you are looking  
> for, I would stick with the pt/pd + gold toner that you are using.
>
> According to the Bostick-Sullivan site, the cold bath developer can  
> produce cold toned prints when used at 50 degrees F, but apparently  
> loses a lot of speed. I have never tried using it at that  
> temperature, so I can't convey any direct experience. However, I  
> can say that the cold bath formula used at around 70 degrees F is  
> not radically different in print tone than the regular potox  
> developer used slightly warm.
>
> Clay
> On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:47 PM, David Ashcraft wrote:
>
>> I had read that it was possible to produce a blue tone using  
>> this.  The pics are winter scenes of ice and snow and printing  
>> them in warm tones isn't the look I want.  My other pics are in pt/ 
>> pd so I want to keep using these materials.  I used the ammonium  
>> citrate and gold but wanted to go still cooler using the developer  
>> to do so.
>>
>> What formula are you using?
>>
>> David
>> On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Jon Reid wrote:
>>
>>> I use it all the time David. I use it typically around room temp  
>>> (~20-23)℃. It's a reasonably subtle difference depending on  
>>> paper but on Arches platine it produces quite a nice tone just  
>>> warm of neutral. I'm wanting to explore Ammonium Citrate for it's  
>>> alleged cooler tones and slightly higher contrast but am having  
>>> trouble sourcing any locally.
>>>
>>> I'm also going to explore adding Gold chloride to my mix to  
>>> explore it's tone changing characteristics though I've read  
>>> arguments for and against.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28/06/2010, at 2:55 AM, David Ashcraft wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone used potassium phosphate with potassium oxalate as a  
>>>> pt developer?  I want to make pt prints in a cooler tone, any  
>>>> suggestions?
>>>> David
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