[alt-photo] Re: applying PVA size

[Keith Gerling]

Mostly, on wood.  Although I have made some very small prints on paper as
well.  I love the way it works and how quick and easy it is.  I just hate
that shine....


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Paul Viapiano <viapiano at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Keith...
>
> Are you using it on paper or on your prepared wood-gesso-marble-dust
> supports?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Gerling" <
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> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: applying PVA size
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>  I've been using Gamblin PVA size this winter (on days it is warm enough to
>> work!).  But I hate the shine and will go back to gluted gelatin once it
>> gets warm enough (to open windows and so the gelatin doesn't set up so
>> fast).
>>
>> I found that the 4 inch Whizz rollers from Lowes are ideal for use in
>> coating.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Kerik <kerik at kerik.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I've just started using Gamblin PVA size this week. For the most part I
>>> like the results, although it's a close second to gelatin for me. It's
>>> much easier, quicker and healthier than dealing with gelatin and
>>> formaldehyde for sure! I've found it's been a little more susceptible to
>>> staining than gelatin. I'm using it for gum over palladium and it's only
>>> been an issue in even toned, smooth areas and only occasionally. Not a
>>> deal breaker and I'm sure I'll be able to work it out. I'm using it
>>> diluted 1:1 on Artistico Extra White. I apply it with an acrylic coating
>>> rod (similar to a Puddle Pusher but home-made and unbreakable) on prints
>>> up to 17 inches square.
>>>
>>> I'm preparing for Fotofest (Amy, I'll be in touch!) and this approach has
>>> helped streamline my process.
>>>
>>> Kerik
>>> www.kerik.com
>>>
>>>
>>> > Henry,
>>> >
>>> > I use just a regular old cheap brush for coating the PVA.  You can
>>> > wash it as soon as you use it, but  I tend to use one or two brushes,
>>> > different sizes, that I dedicate to PVA use-- and not use them for
>>> > anything else.  Even though it's easily washed out, I find it does
>>> > change the softness of the brush.  And I definitely wouldn't use a
>>> > brush as expensive as the Richeson for this.
>>> >
>>> >   I use it straight, no dilution at all, but it is a very thin coat I
>>> > put down. Seems to work really well for me-- no problems at all.
>>> > Others dilute.  That may also depend on the paper.  I tend to use only
>>> > BFK Rives.
>>> >
>>> > I think you'll really like it.  And I always feel like I need to thank
>>> > Jim Larimer for being the first here to talk about using PVA for gum
>>> > printing.  It's really been so much easier and more convenient to use,
>>> > not to mention offering better results. :)
>>> >
>>> > Diana
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mar 4, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Henry Rattle wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I've just acquired some Gamblin PVA size for my gum printing (thank
>>> >> you John
>>> >> B for alerting us to Stuart R Stevenson as UK supplier - as you say,
>>> >> he is
>>> >> most helpful). Now quite excited at the possibility of preparing a
>>> >> sheet or
>>> >> two of paper as I go, rather than batch-processing with hot gelatine
>>> >> solutions, formalin etc.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm a bit nervous of using my precious Richeson brush for PVA. Have
>>> >> those of
>>> >> you who are using PVA size for gum any advice re suitable brushes and
>>> >> dilutions?
>>> >>
>>> >> Many thanks
>>> >>
>>> >> Henry
>>> >>
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