[alt-photo] Re: dichromate stain

Clay Harmon Website clayh at clayharmon.com
Sat Mar 6 21:46:01 GMT 2010


Well, the good news is that they all tend to print in a similar way. In my experience, techniques developed on 250gsm Rives BFK will work about the same on the 175gsm Rives BFK Heavyweight, or is that the Rives Heavyweight BFK? You have to laugh.


On Mar 6, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Marek Matusz wrote:

> 
> Clay
> 
> And just to think that I was so happy with not having to make any paper choices when buying BFK. The paper that I use is 250 grams BFK Rives, white.
> At least I am now as confused as everybody else. Thanks Clay!
> 
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> 
> Marek 
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>> From: clayh at clayharmon.com
>> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:33:20 -0600
>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: dichromate stain
>> 
>> There are still quite a few versions of BFK available. In fact, there is a confusing array weights and variants. For instance, Daniel Smith carries a 250gsm Rives White, and a 270gsm White, not to be confused with the 280 gsm BFK heavyweight. There is also a 175 gsm Rives Heavyweight BFK, not to be confused with the 115gsm Rives BFK lightweight, or the 180 gsm Velin Cuve Rives BFK. It is crazy-making to be sure. I like the strangely named 175gsm Rives BFK Heavyweight for pt and gum. Good wet strength and a nice strong pt print when it is acidified.
>> 
>> Just saying Rives BFK is not terribly specific when you start digging into all the options available. And I did not even get into the super heavy versions that weigh in at 300+ gsm.....
>> 
>> Clay
>> On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Marek Matusz wrote:
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>>> Paul,
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>>> I did not refer to the print detail as such but to the crispness of color and color saturation achived with the same amount of gum/pigment on the two papers. Much better on the Rives BFK. It is surprising since the surface is softer with some texture. It does take a bit more concentrated PVA size. I looked around and to my surprise Rives BFK comes in only one flavor, but many colors. It is possible that what was made years ago is a different paper that is sold today.
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>>> Marek
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>>>> From: viapiano at pacbell.net
>>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>>> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:20:18 -0800
>>>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: dichromate stain
>>>> 
>>>> Marek,
>>>> 
>>>> I find the exact opposite re FAEW and BFK...isn't that funny?
>>>> 
>>>> The BFK I have was given to me so I don't know the exact type, weight, etc 
>>>> of the Rives but my FA gum prints are way more detailed because of the 
>>>> smoother surface.
>>>> 
>>>> Are there different surfaces for the BFK?
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
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