[alt-photo] Re: paper

[Diana Bloomfield]

Oh, that would be interesting to try if it was actually available.  I  
never used Fabriano EW much, but I did use the 300 lb Fabriano a few  
times-- and I have to admit, I loved how I never had to worry about  
any long and repeated water soaks, paper creases, or tearing--  
seemingly indestructible stuff.  Everything seemed to print really  
sharp on it, too.   I liked it for that reason, but to actually  
attempt to cut it in smaller pieces required some serious upper body  
weight training, so I gave up on that.

I don't even know where to begin with George Forman and his sons. :)

Diana

On Mar 6, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Clay Harmon Website wrote:

> No kidding. At least that was true a few years  ago. I tried some,  
> and if memory serves it was a 600gsm paper. Almost cardboard.
>
> I am not sure if they still make it.
>
> Nutty how confusing it can all get.
>
> Sort of like George Foreman (the retired heavyweight boxer and grill  
> maven) naming five of his sons "George Edward Foreman": there is Jr,  
> III, IV, V and VI.  No joke.
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Diana Bloomfield wrote:
>
>> I didn't even know Rives had a "super-heavy version" - or were you  
>> just kidding?  I can never tell.
>>
>> I go to our local Jerry's here, and I typically buy the "Rives  
>> heavyweight BFK", at 280 gsm, which I really love.   I've been  
>> buying various papers there forever, but only just discovered that  
>> if you buy 20 of any one thing (anything in the store)-- if it's at  
>> least 20 of the exact same thing of whatever it is you're buying  
>> (like 20 bottles of Gamblin PVA for instance)-- you get a 20%  
>> discount.  I was stunned.   I guess I've always bought less paper  
>> than that at any one time, but recently, I bought 20 at one shot--  
>> so I found out about this discount.  They said they'd always  
>> offered that (only in the store, I gather, not online)-- a well- 
>> kept secret.  But that extra discount on already discounted paper  
>> there sure seems like a real bargain to me.   And I really like  
>> working with it-- seems to work really well for gum-printing.
>>
>> Diana
>> On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>
>>> Clay...
>>>
>>> Exactly what I meant...makes your eyes glaze over!
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clay Harmon Website" <clayh at clayharmon.com 
>>> >
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>>> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:33 AM
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: dichromate stain
>>>
>>>
>>>> There are still quite a few versions of BFK available. In fact,  
>>>> there is a confusing array weights and variants. For instance,  
>>>> Daniel Smith carries a 250gsm Rives White, and a 270gsm White,  
>>>> not to be confused with the  280 gsm BFK heavyweight. There is  
>>>> also a 175 gsm Rives Heavyweight BFK,  not to be confused with  
>>>> the 115gsm Rives BFK lightweight, or the 180 gsm Velin Cuve Rives  
>>>> BFK.  It is crazy-making to be sure. I like the strangely named  
>>>> 175gsm Rives BFK  Heavyweight for pt and gum. Good wet strength  
>>>> and a nice strong pt print when it is acidified.
>>>>
>>>> Just saying Rives BFK is not terribly specific when you start  
>>>> digging into all the options available. And I did not even get  
>>>> into the super heavy versions that weigh in at 300+ gsm.....
>>>>
>>>> Clay
>>>>
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