[alt-photo] Re: to shrink or not to shrink (registration)

Katharine Thayer kthayer at pacifier.com
Mon Mar 22 20:40:45 GMT 2010


Thanks; if you're interested, PB60 is indanthrone.





On Mar 22, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Paul Viapiano wrote:

> Daniel Smith Indigo, PB60 and Lamp Black PBk6...
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>> Hey, looks great, and beautifully registered.   A couple of  
>> questions/comments:
>>
>> (1) I assume your indigo isn't really indigo (PB 66, a fugitive   
>> pigment no longer used in any watercolor paints) but one of the   
>> mixtures of blue (a different blue in each case) with lamp black  
>> that  are currently marketed under the name "indigo" by several  
>> paint  manufacturers.  Or are you using powdered PB66?
>>
>> (2) It will be interesting to see what your final print looks  
>> like  and whether you're happy with it.   I was looking at this as  
>> a  finished duotone, and found the ochre-brown cast very  
>> appealing, but  now that I realize (from another post that came in  
>> while I was  writing this) that you mean this to be the first two  
>> layers of an  (unsaturated) tricolor gum, I have different  
>> thoughts.  It  depends  entirely on what effect you're hoping to  
>> achieve, so this might work  perfectly for what you want to do,  
>> but in general if you're hoping to  finish with a somewhat neutral  
>> and somewhat realistic-ish color  balance, then you'd want the  
>> overall color cast of the print after  the second layer to be  
>> roughly the color complement of the third  layer.  But if that's  
>> not important to you, or if you're intending an  orangeish-brown  
>> final print (actually that might be cool, depending)  then it  
>> doesn't matter.
>> Katharine
>>
>>
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>> On Mar 22, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
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>>> Diana...
>>>
>>> I didn't size and I didn't preshrink. Paper is 10 x 11 inches,   
>>> image size is approx 6 x 6 inches, give or take.
>>>
>>> Here's a scan after 2 layers, indigo and then raw sienna, waxed   
>>> paper neg.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/4454749196/
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>>> Please let me know what you think...anything at all!
>>>
>>> Thx..Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Bloomfield"  
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>>>> Did I get that right, Paul-- that you didn't size with the  
>>>> Rives  and got no staining?  (I now  can't find your post from   
>>>> yesterday.)  Do you remember which of the many Rives papers you   
>>>> used?   I'm also surprised you didn't pre-shrink and had no   
>>>> registration problems. Wow-- that would be great not not to  
>>>> have  to deal with pre-shrinking. Thanks.  I'm gonna try that,  
>>>> too. :)
>>>>
>>>> Diana
>>>> On Mar 22, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Trevor Cunningham wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>> So, do you line all three-four negs up at once and then stick  
>>>>> em   with the pin? I'm trying to figure out which registration  
>>>>> system  i'd  like to use. I found a good site that sells  
>>>>> registration  tabs and  such (posted it several months back),  
>>>>> but if the pins  work, why fuss  and spend the cash? Paul,  
>>>>> could you post a shot  or two of you reg  system?
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Viapiano wrote:
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