[alt-photo] Re: Epson 3800 Ink Expiration Date and Epson Driver

Paul Viapiano viapiano at pacbell.net
Thu May 27 00:52:57 GMT 2010


Good suggestion...

When you run the head check, do any anomalies show up there? Or only on the 
Pictorico?

You should be seeing gaps on the plain paper head check print.

p



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "francis schanberger" <frangst at gmail.com>
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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Epson 3800 Ink Expiration Date and Epson Driver


If your print driver has this option, select unidirectional instead of
bidirectional printing. Printing will take longer but the banding may go
away.

-francis

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Amy Holmes George
<amyhgeorge at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Hi Chris,
> Yes, a fellow ugh!  :)
> Maybe I should simply repeat all the Epson driver diagnostic tests just to
> be sure. We'll see . . .
> Amy
>
> > From: zphoto at montana.net
> > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:35:56 -0600
> > To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> > Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Epson 3800 Ink Expiration Date and Epson Driver
> >
> > Ohhhhh ya Amy I've seen that in spades, on my 2400.  I have yet to make
> diginegs with my 3880 because of the driver issue which is really cramping
> my style and never owned the 3800.
> >
> > When I got those little teeny bandings, I cleaned my heads, sometimes up
> to 6x, and they went away. BUT of course all that head cleaning was why my
> 2400 went on the blink and had to have the diaper changed, along with the
> issue with not being compatible with Snow Leopard.
> >
> > But try cleaning the heads multiple times, then holding the neg on a
> window and look at the neg through a loupe.  You will clearly see the 
> little
> micro lines.  If so, clean again.
> > Chris
> >
> > PS always use 2880 ppi.
> >
> > Christina Z. Anderson
> > christinaZanderson.com
> >
> > On May 26, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Amy Holmes George wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello alt list,
> > > I have two queries, and I would certainly appreciate any feedback
> anyone can offer . . .
> > > First of all, I am curious to know if anyone else is using the Epson
> 3800 (with the Epson driver) to produce digital negatives (using Epson 
> color
> inks) on Pictorico transparency film (particularly with pt/pd printing) 
> and
> rendering consistently good results AND no "venetian blinds" effect.
> > > If so, this is my question: Are any or all of your Epson inks past
> their "expiration" date?
> > > Epson tells me that, like most things these days, their inks are
> stamped with a "freshness" date as a recommendation to use it within two
> years of its production. However, they (Epson) actually use expired inks 
> all
> the time with no ill effect. Currently, I am printing with several expired
> inks—some of which expired last fall. So, now I'm wondering if there is 
> any
> correlation between ink freshness and venetian blinds or even UV
> sensitivity. Epson could not address this issue, especially since I'm
> printing on Pictorico and not an Epson media.
> > > Second issue: I am still struggling with the occasional recurrence of
> venetian blinds in large fields of flat, (typically) high print values. 
> And,
> when I tweak the settings under Advanced Media Controls in the Epson 
> driver
> (as originally recommended by Epson and several folks on this list), it
> appeared to eliminate the venetian blinds, but then I experience other
> issues like the shadows blocking up. Recently I decided to print 1 PDN 
> Color
> Density Range Palette with those same Advanced Media Control settings used
> to combat venetian blinds and then printed 1 PDN Color Density Range 
> Palette
> withOUT the Advanced Media Control settings applied. Both were coated,
> exposed and developed according to my standardized time for pt/pd BUT the
> final print results are drastically different (BTW, each CDRP was printed
> with a Stouffers 31 step-tablet which reproduced the same in each). The 
> CDRP
> printed with the Advanced Media Control settings reveals no paper white
> (looks way over exposed) and there is micro-banding; these differences are
> not detectable in the negatives themselves.
> > > You can view the results here:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/103360756612857524693/VerticalBandingInSky#5475693643166130162
> > > Does anyone have an explanation for this?
> > > Sorry for my lengthy message . . .
> > > Many thanks,Amy Holmes George
> > >
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