[alt-photo] Re: Epson 3800 Ink Expiration Date and Epson Driver

Thu May 27 18:04:51 GMT 2010

Hi Paul,
I actually just ran every diagnostic test that the Epson driver can do, and everything appears to be fine . . . no gaps, no banding, no clogs, etc. Weird!
Also, Francis, I haven't ever found a feature in this driver that lets me change to unidirectional printing (although I remember doing this with other printers previously).
Amy

> From: viapiano at pacbell.net
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:52:57 -0700
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Epson 3800 Ink Expiration Date and Epson Driver
> 
> Good suggestion...
> 
> When you run the head check, do any anomalies show up there? Or only on the 
> Pictorico?
> 
> You should be seeing gaps on the plain paper head check print.
> 
> p
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "francis schanberger" <frangst at gmail.com>
> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list" 
> <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:35 PM
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Epson 3800 Ink Expiration Date and Epson Driver
> 
> 
> If your print driver has this option, select unidirectional instead of
> bidirectional printing. Printing will take longer but the banding may go
> away.
> 
> -francis
> 
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Amy Holmes George
> <amyhgeorge at hotmail.com>wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> > Yes, a fellow ugh!  :)
> > Maybe I should simply repeat all the Epson driver diagnostic tests just to
> > be sure. We'll see . . .
> > Amy
> >
> > > From: zphoto at montana.net
> > > Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:35:56 -0600
> > > To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> > > Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Epson 3800 Ink Expiration Date and Epson Driver
> > >
> > > Ohhhhh ya Amy I've seen that in spades, on my 2400.  I have yet to make
> > diginegs with my 3880 because of the driver issue which is really cramping
> > my style and never owned the 3800.
> > >
> > > When I got those little teeny bandings, I cleaned my heads, sometimes up
> > to 6x, and they went away. BUT of course all that head cleaning was why my
> > 2400 went on the blink and had to have the diaper changed, along with the
> > issue with not being compatible with Snow Leopard.
> > >
> > > But try cleaning the heads multiple times, then holding the neg on a
> > window and look at the neg through a loupe.  You will clearly see the 
> > little
> > micro lines.  If so, clean again.
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > PS always use 2880 ppi.
> > >
> > > Christina Z. Anderson
> > > christinaZanderson.com
> > >
> > > On May 26, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Amy Holmes George wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello alt list,
> > > > I have two queries, and I would certainly appreciate any feedback
> > anyone can offer . . .
> > > > First of all, I am curious to know if anyone else is using the Epson
> > 3800 (with the Epson driver) to produce digital negatives (using Epson 
> > color
> > inks) on Pictorico transparency film (particularly with pt/pd printing) 
> > and
> > rendering consistently good results AND no "venetian blinds" effect.
> > > > If so, this is my question: Are any or all of your Epson inks past
> > their "expiration" date?
> > > > Epson tells me that, like most things these days, their inks are
> > stamped with a "freshness" date as a recommendation to use it within two
> > years of its production. However, they (Epson) actually use expired inks 
> > all
> > the time with no ill effect. Currently, I am printing with several expired
> > inks—some of which expired last fall. So, now I'm wondering if there is 
> > any
> > correlation between ink freshness and venetian blinds or even UV
> > sensitivity. Epson could not address this issue, especially since I'm
> > printing on Pictorico and not an Epson media.
> > > > Second issue: I am still struggling with the occasional recurrence of
> > venetian blinds in large fields of flat, (typically) high print values. 
> > And,
> > when I tweak the settings under Advanced Media Controls in the Epson 
> > driver
> > (as originally recommended by Epson and several folks on this list), it
> > appeared to eliminate the venetian blinds, but then I experience other
> > issues like the shadows blocking up. Recently I decided to print 1 PDN 
> > Color
> > Density Range Palette with those same Advanced Media Control settings used
> > to combat venetian blinds and then printed 1 PDN Color Density Range 
> > Palette
> > withOUT the Advanced Media Control settings applied. Both were coated,
> > exposed and developed according to my standardized time for pt/pd BUT the
> > final print results are drastically different (BTW, each CDRP was printed
> > with a Stouffers 31 step-tablet which reproduced the same in each). The 
> > CDRP
> > printed with the Advanced Media Control settings reveals no paper white
> > (looks way over exposed) and there is micro-banding; these differences are
> > not detectable in the negatives themselves.
> > > > You can view the results here:
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/103360756612857524693/VerticalBandingInSky#5475693643166130162
> > > > Does anyone have an explanation for this?
> > > > Sorry for my lengthy message . . .
> > > > Many thanks,Amy Holmes George
> > > >
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