[alt-photo] Re: Alt-photo-process-list Digest, Vol 267, Issue 1

Harlan Chapman hchapman at coastside.net
Mon Oct 4 12:26:59 GMT 2010


Jon,
On lowering the contrast of your palladium print:
I've found ammonium citrate developer to give higher contrast prints than
potassium oxalate developer. Likely your sodium citrate is similar to
ammonium citrate though I haven't tried it specifically. But the standard
potassium oxalate developer may be worth a try.
-Harlan

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> From: Jon Reid <jon at sharperstill.com>
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> Hi all,
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> I did some initial test prints yesterday with a negative I've been a
> little concerned about since shooting. Extremely big subject
> brightness range. Link to picture is:
> http://www.sharperstill.com/jonreid/pics/0037802001.jpg
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> Despite how it looks in the quick scan I did the majority of the
> billboard is pure paper white. I used a pure palladium mix (8 drops
> Fo, 9 drops Pd - 5x7 pyro developed Tri-X neg) developed in Sodium
> Citrate 40?.
>
> I'm happy with the subtle separation between lower sky and trees but
> would ideally even reduce exposure slightly. So, as the subject line
> indicates, I'm keen to know if there is any way of further reducing
> contrast or any other ideas that might see me realising a print of
> this negative.
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> Cheers,
> Jon
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> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 03:55:28 -0400
> From: etienne garbaux <photographeur at nerdshack.com>
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> Jon wrote:
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> >I'm keen to know if there is any way of further reducing  contrast
> >or any other ideas that might see me realising a print of  this negative.
>
> The classic method is to use contrast masks sandwiched with the
> negative.  That would be particularly useful here, because (to my
> eye, from the digital version) it appears that all that needs to be
> masked is the billboard.  Note that I'm talking "real" (sharp, not
> unsharp) contrast masks.
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> Alternatively, you could try a super-proportional reducer on the
> negative, which (if done right) should do exactly what you need.  I
> used to do this all the time back in the day, so I was in practice
> and generally got it right.  You will want to experiment a bit with
> step tablet negatives before you commit your image negative, if you
> go this way.
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> Best regards,
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> etienne
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