[alt-photo] Re: casein
Peter Blackburn
blackburnap at hotmail.com
Mon Apr 11 19:32:27 GMT 2011
Looks as if you are well on your way. Wonderful images. "...one student got a full tricolor in 2 hr..." —if that's not rock 'n roll, I don't know what is!
Perhaps I should go back and work with casein powder. But then again, working from real cheese has a bit more charm. Keep up the success and all the best!
Peter J. Blackburn
> From: zphoto at montana.net
> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:19:49 -0600
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] casein
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> Dear All,
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> I am continuing to work out the casein details, but thought I'd share a picture that applies to what I think Peter said, about the viscosity of casein that goes way up with percentage solutions. Peter, you are NOT kidding.
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> http://christinaanderson.visualserver.com/Text_page.cfm?pID=2076
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> This is a picture of the immediate viscosity of 10% vs 15% sodium caseinate.
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> Have to go to school now but when I return I will see if it eventually liquifies, but this explains to me the vast differences between Schmincke and Kremer sodium caseinate/borax solution. The thick stuff is 15% and if Jacques was right, it may be Schmincke thinner stuff is 10-12%.
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> No conclusions drawn quite eyt, but that ammonium caseinate behaves quite differently, whipping up in either concentration as whipped egg whites and then going into solution within a couple hours.
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> More thoughts on this later but at least this will start a Monday morning conversation off.
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> BTW more caseins up on my website in the Past Lives folder. All are made with earth pigments (iron oxides, ultramarine no gum arabic), because I wanted to make sure not to muck up my observations with watercolor that contains gum arabic. Now comparing same images made with the usual magenta/thalo/azo yellow watercolors for comparison.
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> Taught casein in class last Wednesday and one student got a full tricolor in 2 hr. That's enough to make the process appealing, huh? A couple students were immediately hooked, and this is while they are still in their gum unit.
> Chris
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> Christina Z. Anderson
> christinaZanderson.com
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