[alt-photo] Re: list postings

[Paul Viapiano]

Sharing is great, no doubt...and I've asked a million questions on this list 
and other places regarding every process I've been interested in. Most 
people I've asked have shared tremendously, others have answered partially 
but in the spirit of teaching me to *do for myself*, and when I have done 
that, I've learned so much, much more about my materials and their 
characteristics that in the end I have much more control. Yes, it takes a 
lot longer to figure it all out, but really when you think about it, even if 
someone shares every single thing about the way they do something, you will 
*never* be able to make a print like theirs.

And I believe this wholeheartedly and have learned this from my experience 
as a professional musician. What guitars, amps, strings, pedals, picks, etc 
do you use? How do you play this chord that chord...no one will sound like 
you, not even close.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Diana Bloomfield" <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net>
To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list" 
<alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:41 AM
Subject: [alt-photo] Re: list postings


> Hi Henk,
>
> Yes, I think when people do that, they don't realize that the full sharing 
> just helps create an open and generous culture, one that certainly 
> encourages discussion. And, of course, others are more willing to share 
> their findings, too, in whatever they're working on.
>
> While I agree about the possible combinations of meshing alt with 
> digital-- honestly, what I mostly see is extensive use of Photoshop in 
> final (big) digital prints.  Not that there's anything wrong with that . . 
> .  but from my perspective, that seems to have really increased (well, 
> that and iPhone apps)-- in the last couple of years.
>
> Diana
>
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 1:00 PM, henk thijs wrote:
>
>> Diana,
>> Maybe it is also a matter of disappointment; 'in the old days' i think no 
>> one was hesitating to explain the way he or she was working, even to the 
>> minor details -see also Judies PF journals - ; the idea that someone was 
>> explaining testing pigments for gum and in the end was not telling the 
>> results....... !
>> This makes me sad and reluctant to post to the list.
>> Apart from that , the unique combination possibilities of 'alt' and 
>> 'digital' is numerous, not only for digital negative making.
>> cheers,
>> Henk
>> ------------------------------------
>> www.thijs-foto.com
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> On 30 dec 2011, at 15:58, Diana Bloomfield wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Chris,
>>>
>>> I suspect that digital printing just rapidly took off in the last few 
>>> years.  I very rarely see alt process work anywhere, and certainly not 
>>> in juried shows, unless it's specifically an alt process show.  Even as 
>>> little as four years ago, I'd see more than digital output-- but not 
>>> much anymore.
>>>
>>> As far as the List goes, it seems to me that a lot of the posters who 
>>> kept conversations, questions, and debates going were people who are no 
>>> longer here.  It's not much fun, and certainly not worthwhile, to make a 
>>> post to the list and have no response whatsoever.  In fact, I find it a 
>>> little weird, though I see it all the time here now.  My thought is that 
>>> many of those people who were so interested, knowledgeable, and 
>>> interesting are no longer here (as you say-- either died or simply left 
>>> the List).
>>>
>>> Diana
>>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Christina Anderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is sad to see posts from list members who have died and or left the 
>>>> list. Their personalities live on loud and clear in the letters. It is 
>>>> also sad to relive moments such as the WTC bombing, everyone worrying 
>>>> about whether Judy was harmed. It is also hilarious to see now-experts 
>>>> in particular processes before they were experts, asking newbie 
>>>> questions about their process of choice like the rest of us did.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder to myself why we no longer have 7000 posts a month. Even just 
>>>> 1000 a month would be nice!! Maybe those of us oldtimers no longer have 
>>>> as many questions and new questioners are needed. Maybe email is "old 
>>>> hat" nowadays, replaced by (UGH) Facebook.
>>>
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