[alt-photo] Re: casein

Fri Feb 25 18:44:24 GMT 2011

Hi Mark:

Yes, I do have some work posted. This link should take your there:  http://www.alternativephotography.com/gallery/v/peter_j_blackburn/casein_pigment_prints/
Thanks for asking! 

Peter J. Blackburn

> From: ender100 at aol.com
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:31:09 -0600
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: casein
> 
> Peter,
> Do you have some examples on the web?
> 
> Thanks for your note!
> 
> Mark Nelson
> www.PrecisionDigitalNegatives.com
> PDNPRint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
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> 
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> 
> On Feb 25, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Peter Blackburn <blackburnap at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi Christina and all:
> > 
> > Yes, I do casein quite a bit—much of the time, fact and LOVE IT. It has quite a few advantages over gum with shorter printing times being one. And since I use the sun, I can work in casein on somewhat cloudy days—days which would create havoc with gum. It can be blotted dry after processing with a towel unlike gum which would smear or worse! My casein is pure white which makes it a bit easier to see and evaluate hue and density during the mixing stage. Casein is a little more fluid allowing for the use of brushes usually reserved for inks and dyes. There are a few more advantages which would take a bit of time to explain. Yes, casein is quite underrated in my opinion. Casein had been used in primitive painting in ages past. Why gum had about a fifty-year head start over casein for dichromate printing is a mystery to me. However, I make my casein fresh directly from cheese which I think makes ALL the difference in the world. Someday I will get this down in publication.
> > 
> > Hope you are doing well, Christina, in all of your extensive traveling and teaching. You seem quite busy these days.
> > 
> > Cheers to all!
> > 
> > 
> > Peter J. Blackburn
> > 
> > 
> >> From: zphoto at montana.net
> >> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:43:44 -0700
> >> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> >> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: casein
> >> 
> >> Keith!
> >> Thanks for the info!
> >> 
> >> One casein printer said it was half the gum printing time...
> >> 
> >> Christina Z. Anderson
> >> christinaZanderson.com
> >> 
> >> On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Keith Gerling wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I've used the Kremer product and it is cheap and easy. I have not used it a
> >>> LOT, because I really did not see much advantage of casein over gum, but
> >>> then I admit that I only used it on wood panels, so the "test" was hardly
> >>> extensive. The results that I got were very interesting and I can certainly
> >>> promise that I will get back to it in the future when it warms up and I can
> >>> haul my lazy self out to Menards for more wood. At the moment I am printing
> >>> tons of cyanotypes on Masa. Casein on masa? That sounds like frustration
> >>> in the making...
> >>> 
> >>> But while we are on the subject, maybe I can ask a couple of questions of
> >>> anybody that has worked with casein. I believe Loris mentioned that the
> >>> exposure is less than with gum. Is that the case? How much less? Loris??
> >>> Any comment? In my case, I cut the exposure back by 20% and the prints
> >>> still needed some heavy brushing/rubbing/spraying to clear. The emulsion
> >>> was rather opaque compared to gum, and the print was rather similar to a
> >>> temperaprint. Had the print been on paper, I doubt it would have survived.
> >>> So maybe i need to cut the exposure waaaaay back.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Christina Anderson <zphoto at montana.net>wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Yup--did...Lukas seems to be one who has done the process extensively, and
> >>>> he was on the list if not still is.
> >>>> Chris
> >>>> 
> >>>> Christina Z. Anderson
> >>>> christinaZanderson.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Look at Lukas Werth's prints on Flickr...beautiful and lots of them!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Anderson" <
> >>>> zphoto at montana.net>
> >>>>> To: "Alt List" <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:48 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [alt-photo] casein
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> (whoops, sent this with the wrong email so sending again)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Good morning!
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So I'm on this casein hunt for one silly reason--I blame it on Sam Wang.
> >>>> Long ago I saw Sam Wang's caseins and thought them beautiful. Four of them
> >>>> are in his book, Sam Wang, Four Decades of Photographic Explorations,
> >>>> another "must-buy" alt book for just the HUGE amount of alt work documented
> >>>> within its pages. Sam's work is very poetic, subtle.
> >>>>> 
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