[alt-photo] Re: back to the flaking/speckling question

[Diana Bloomfield]

This is what I mentioned to you when you visited, Matt.  I do use PVA  
(just one thin coat) on mine, for the second and subsequent layers--  
works like a charm-- but I'm not sure why you don't just try this.   
When I used gelatin and glyoxal, in the past, I would have those  
inconsistency problems at times, too.  When I switched to using  
Fabriano soft-press and-- well-- took all of Paul's suggestions  
(thanks again, Paul!), my printing-- as well as just the work flow--  
improved greatly.

Diana

On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:

> Well, as you know there are so many variables in gum...however, I  
> use this paper regularly without any staining whatsoever.
>
> See these prints: http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/sets/72157624234247830/
>
> Descriptions with paper type are inlcuded...the fig is 5 layers!  
> There are a few on BFK there as well, which really needs something.  
> I use Gamblin PVA Size for that (see the three oaks tryptych for  
> that).
>
> Keith Taylor does his 3 layer tricolors on Fab soft press with no  
> sizing...
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willen, Matthew S" <willenm at etown.edu 
> >
> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list" <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org 
> >
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:37 AM
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: back to the flaking/speckling question
>
>
>> Actually, that is what I am using. Could I get four good coats on  
>> it w/o
>> sizing though and not get staining?
>> M
>>
>> On 11/21/11 11:35 AM, "Paul Viapiano" <viapiano at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have access to Fabriano paper...hot or soft press?
>>>
>>> You can use that EASILY without sizing of any kind...
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Willen, Matthew S" <willenm at etown.edu>
>>> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list"
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>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] back to the flaking/speckling question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well,
>>>> After much experimentation, I've pretty much come to the conclusion
>>>> that
>>>> the problems with what I last week called "speckling," but was  
>>>> pointed
>>>> out
>>>> that it is actually "flaking," is due to something that happened  
>>>> while
>>>> sizing the paper. So, the question I have now is what to do about  
>>>> it? I
>>>> have a bunch of a gelatin/glyoxal sized paper (only on one side),  
>>>> some
>>>> sheets do fine, others flake like there is no tomorrow, and for the
>>>> life
>>>> of me I can't determine any sort of surface difference which would
>>>> indicate how one or another sheet might behave. Is there anyway to
>>>> remove
>>>> the sizing, and then redo it? Or just resize the other side of each
>>>> sheet?
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> How about using glyoxal indoors? It is getting pretty chilly around
>>>> here,
>>>> and even though I can keep the gelatin solution warm in a  
>>>> thermos, as
>>>> soon
>>>> as it come out it is exposed to some chilly conditions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Matt
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