[alt-photo] Re: back to the flaking/speckling question

[Willen, Matthew S]

Hi Diana,
Yes, I remember and used that for a while, but seemed to be getting
staining, and so switched. That said, I've changed my workflow around and
am using different proportions of gum/pigment and longer development baths
which have been working well with the gelatin up until this past week, and
then all of this inconsistency. I've just flipped a sheet of soft press
and coated up the unsized side, and am interested to see what happens.
M

On 11/21/11 12:24 PM, "Diana Bloomfield" <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>This is what I mentioned to you when you visited, Matt.  I do use PVA
>(just one thin coat) on mine, for the second and subsequent layers--
>works like a charm-- but I'm not sure why you don't just try this.
>When I used gelatin and glyoxal, in the past, I would have those
>inconsistency problems at times, too.  When I switched to using
>Fabriano soft-press and-- well-- took all of Paul's suggestions
>(thanks again, Paul!), my printing-- as well as just the work flow--
>improved greatly.
>
>Diana
>
>On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>
>> Well, as you know there are so many variables in gum...however, I
>> use this paper regularly without any staining whatsoever.
>>
>> See these prints:
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/sets/72157624234247830/
>>
>> Descriptions with paper type are inlcuded...the fig is 5 layers!
>> There are a few on BFK there as well, which really needs something.
>> I use Gamblin PVA Size for that (see the three oaks tryptych for
>> that).
>>
>> Keith Taylor does his 3 layer tricolors on Fab soft press with no
>> sizing...
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willen, Matthew S"
>><willenm at etown.edu
>> >
>> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list"
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>> >
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:37 AM
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: back to the flaking/speckling question
>>
>>
>>> Actually, that is what I am using. Could I get four good coats on
>>> it w/o
>>> sizing though and not get staining?
>>> M
>>>
>>> On 11/21/11 11:35 AM, "Paul Viapiano" <viapiano at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you have access to Fabriano paper...hot or soft press?
>>>>
>>>> You can use that EASILY without sizing of any kind...
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Willen, Matthew S" <willenm at etown.edu>
>>>> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list"
>>>> <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:39 AM
>>>> Subject: [alt-photo] back to the flaking/speckling question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well,
>>>>> After much experimentation, I've pretty much come to the conclusion
>>>>> that
>>>>> the problems with what I last week called "speckling," but was
>>>>> pointed
>>>>> out
>>>>> that it is actually "flaking," is due to something that happened
>>>>> while
>>>>> sizing the paper. So, the question I have now is what to do about
>>>>> it? I
>>>>> have a bunch of a gelatin/glyoxal sized paper (only on one side),
>>>>> some
>>>>> sheets do fine, others flake like there is no tomorrow, and for the
>>>>> life
>>>>> of me I can't determine any sort of surface difference which would
>>>>> indicate how one or another sheet might behave. Is there anyway to
>>>>> remove
>>>>> the sizing, and then redo it? Or just resize the other side of each
>>>>> sheet?
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> How about using glyoxal indoors? It is getting pretty chilly around
>>>>> here,
>>>>> and even though I can keep the gelatin solution warm in a
>>>>> thermos, as
>>>>> soon
>>>>> as it come out it is exposed to some chilly conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Matt
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