[alt-photo] Re: back to the flaking/speckling question
Diana Bloomfield
dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net
Mon Nov 21 17:30:57 GMT 2011
I just looked at those images, Paul. They're wonderful. I love the
fig, especially, and the chocolate cup. I should add here that my
daughter owns the set of blue and white teacups (well, the image, not
the teacups), and the print really is spectacular. I'm impressed that
you use no sizing at all. I haven't been that brave, but that one
little thin coat of PVA seems to work for multiple layers with no
problem.
On Nov 21, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
> Well, as you know there are so many variables in gum...however, I
> use this paper regularly without any staining whatsoever.
>
> See these prints: http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/sets/72157624234247830/
>
> Descriptions with paper type are inlcuded...the fig is 5 layers!
> There are a few on BFK there as well, which really needs something.
> I use Gamblin PVA Size for that (see the three oaks tryptych for
> that).
>
> Keith Taylor does his 3 layer tricolors on Fab soft press with no
> sizing...
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willen, Matthew S" <willenm at etown.edu
> >
> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list" <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> >
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:37 AM
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: back to the flaking/speckling question
>
>
>> Actually, that is what I am using. Could I get four good coats on
>> it w/o
>> sizing though and not get staining?
>> M
>>
>> On 11/21/11 11:35 AM, "Paul Viapiano" <viapiano at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have access to Fabriano paper...hot or soft press?
>>>
>>> You can use that EASILY without sizing of any kind...
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Willen, Matthew S" <willenm at etown.edu>
>>> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list"
>>> <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:39 AM
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] back to the flaking/speckling question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well,
>>>> After much experimentation, I've pretty much come to the conclusion
>>>> that
>>>> the problems with what I last week called "speckling," but was
>>>> pointed
>>>> out
>>>> that it is actually "flaking," is due to something that happened
>>>> while
>>>> sizing the paper. So, the question I have now is what to do about
>>>> it? I
>>>> have a bunch of a gelatin/glyoxal sized paper (only on one side),
>>>> some
>>>> sheets do fine, others flake like there is no tomorrow, and for the
>>>> life
>>>> of me I can't determine any sort of surface difference which would
>>>> indicate how one or another sheet might behave. Is there anyway to
>>>> remove
>>>> the sizing, and then redo it? Or just resize the other side of each
>>>> sheet?
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> How about using glyoxal indoors? It is getting pretty chilly around
>>>> here,
>>>> and even though I can keep the gelatin solution warm in a
>>>> thermos, as
>>>> soon
>>>> as it come out it is exposed to some chilly conditions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Matt
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