[alt-photo] Re: printer weirdness

[fdfragomeni at gmail.com]

This is interesting. I've been wondering about the inability to select No Color Management for a while now. I'm not making printer profiles but I make transfer functions for printing digital inter-negs and inter-positives on various paper bases. Ideally, I'd be printing my step tablets with No Color Management but I'm not given the option using my Epson 4800 with PS4 on Mac OSX. I have to tell the photoshop print dialog box that the printer will manage color and then tell the printer's print dialog box that there is no color management. This effectively gives me no color management (or as close to it as I'm gonna get). It works for what I'm doing but it would be nice to just be able to tell it No Color Management from the get go.

-Francesco
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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: printer weirdness

Short answer is:  Adobe, Epson and Apple developers have some communication issues.

The inability for users to actually turn off color management for developing profiles using the combination of CS5, OSX 10.6 and the Epson drivers off has everyone pulling their hair out. 

Big discussions about the problems here:

 http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/03/printer-hell-the-epson-cs4-snow-leopard-dysfunction.html

and here:

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/05/returning-to-hell.html

and here:

http://www.josephholmes.com/news-photoshopCS5printing.html

with a boatload of discussion here:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?board=45.0



Bottom line is that to create a good ICC profile you will need to use an older version of Adobe CS and an older version of OSX to print the unmanaged test strips.

I have heard that Adobe has recently created a standalone printing app for profile creation that somehow bypasses the color management in OSX 10.6 and above. You'll have to dig around the Adobe site to find out about that.

It's a mess.

Clay
On Sep 28, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Joseph Smigiel wrote:

> Our college's Photo Lab just purchased a new Epson Stylus Pro 4900 and
> we are running Photoshop CS5.1 with Mac OSX v10.6.8 on an I-Mac.  I'm
> trying to calibrate the color output using a new X-Rite ColorMunki.
> I've run the auto calibration for that colorimeter and have profiled
> the monitor and printer using that device.  I'm using the standard
> Adobe Ole.tiff file to check the output.  The paper is Ilford Galerie
> Smooth Pearl and I've loaded the proper icc profile for that paper
> initially and set the print driver to the recommended semigloss paper
> type setting before loading the profiles generated by the ColorMunki.
> 
> I must have something set wrong because the printer is printing a pale
> blue surrounding the image.  The image file is only 3"x4" and the
> maximum printing area around it on the letter-sized paper has this
> blue tint with a paper-white margin.  This is happening with two
> different computers networked to the printer.
> 
> Anyone know why the 4900 is printing something in this non-image area?
> 
> I've turned color management off in the printer dialog but have also
> tried some with the printer managing color and I get the same result
> with the blue surround.  I've tried having proof settings on or off,
> simulating paper white on or off, and so on with no apparent
> difference in the printing.
> 
> What's going on?  I'm lost.
> 
> Joe
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