[alt-photo] Re: Clearprint Vellum 1020 vs 1000H

[Peter Blackburn]

Yes, you're right, Kerik. After looking a prices again from different sources, vellum and other typical art papers are competitive price-wise—that's good. Maybe it was the brand of vellum I used for negatives, but sometimes handling them with damp hands, as is sometimes the case in my workflow, made the edges warp profoundly. #1 wouldn't be an issue for me as I don't print pt/pd—love looking at it, though! #2 would get on my nerves which is why I print on 300lb paper for gallery work. Dry mounting? I'd wear garlic, hang mirrors, and display crosses—anything to ward off the dry mounting press! Just a little humor.    I most likely will try a tricolor gum image or tow on heavy vellum in the near future for the experience. Thanks, Kerik, for your time and response!  

Peter 

 > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:10:47 -0600
> From: kerik at kerik.com
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Clearprint Vellum 1020 vs 1000H
> 
> In general, the vellum papers are quite robust, especially the 
> Clearprint line.
> 
> http://www.clearprintpaperco.com/media/vellums.html
> 
> They have good wet strength and are pretty easy to work with. The 
> heavier ones tend to be better for bigger prints. I've printed as large 
> as 14x17 and 12x20 on these. If a third party spills a drop of water, it 
> will dry off like any other paper. No harm done. They are also quite 
> inexpensive compared to many papers we use for alternative processes.
> 
> The two hassles for me with vellums are: 1) they can be subject to 
> black spots for those who print pt/pd and 2) they will never again be 
> perfectly flat when they dry. No matter how much drying and flattening 
> you do, they tend to get a little wrinkly as they breathe with the temp 
> and humidity of where they are displayed. This can be overcome by 
> drymounting, but that take away some of the wonderful translucency. The 
> wrinkling doesn't bother me.
> 
> -Kerik
> 
> > Hi Kerik: My question for you is do you find working with vellum is
> > bit "chancy?" I've only worked with lighter weights of vellum in the
> > past for negative production and not the heavier weights. I've never
> > printed on it. It certainly has a marvelous, smooth surface for
> > printing, but it seems it doesn't take much to crease, crinkle and
> > wrinkle. And what happens should a second party spill a drop of water
> > on it?  I have the impression, maybe wrongly, that vellum is "high
> > maintenance" in addition to being a bit hard on the wallet, 
> > especially
> > in the heavier weights. Thanks for your input!
> > Peter J. Blackburn
> >
> >  > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:21:45 -0600
> >> From: kerik at kerik.com
> >> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> >> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Clearprint Vellum 1020 vs 1000H
> >>
> >> Yep, I've used it and it works great. There is also a 1025 that is 
> >> even
> >> a little thicker.
> >>
> >> -Kerik
> >>
> >>
> >> > Since we're talking about vellum printing, has anyone tried the
> >> > Clearprint
> >> > 1020 vellum?
> >> >
> >> > This is a 20lb version of the 16lb 1000H which I have printed on. 
> >> I
> >> > have
> >> > printed up to 12" x 15" on the 1000H, but am thinking the 20lb 
> >> might
> >> > be a
> >> > much better bet for going any larger. I am hoping (*fingers* 
> >> crossed)
> >> > it
> >> > works like the 1000H but is a little easier to work with when wet;
> >> > has
> >> > anyone printed on the 1020?
> >> >
> >> > I will be ordering a stack of paper in March so I am trying to get 
> >> my
> >> > bearing with what to purchase now.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> > Jeremy
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