[alt-photo] Re: Michael Wesely's work (was reciprocity failure)

[Francesco Fragomeni]

This is getting interesting!!

-Francesco

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Francesco Fragomeni
<fdfragomeni at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Charles,
>
> From what I understand, he uses several neutral density filters to extend
> the exposures. Honestly, Im very curious about what his actual procedure
> is. All I have is hearsay and I haven't taken any time to actually try to
> contact him about it. When comparing his work to solar exposures, you can
> see the sun's path traced in some of his images, this is why I doubt that
> these are time lapse. His images are processed in some way or another
> though and I'm not sure what that invovles. In solargraphy sun exposures,
> the paper is scanned and then inverted and processed to produce a print.
> I'm not sure if he's scanning the film/paper or if he's actually printing
> them wet in some way.
> I have noticed a few things that tell me that digital processing is
> involved somewhere. If you look at work done by people using film which
> involves a tracing of the sun's path (Chirs McCaw is one that comes to
> mind), the sun physically burns the film and appears as a dark printed out
> streak. In Wesely's work, the sun paths are no where near as dark or burnt
> as they would be if you were looking something that hasnt been manipulated.
> They are present but just look different.
>
> Charles, can you expalin your three-camera test for me a bit more. I want
> to get it into my head.
>
> -Francesco
>
>   On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Charles Ryberg <cryberg at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Folks:  Till this thread I had not known of Wesely's photos.  Google got
>> me to some very nice images.  I have to say that to me, these can't
>> possibly be straight one-year-exposure pinholes.  While I'm hardly an
>> expert on pinhole photos, I get exposures of a few seconds with 400 ISO
>> film.  Even with enlarging paper a few hours is enough.
>>
>> We have all seen scans of solar exposures where the sun prints out its
>> path on paper over a year burning a black, printed out image.  It just
>> seems impossible that film won't do the same.
>>
>> Perhaps Wesely had some kind of time-lapse on his pinhole?  Perhaps he
>> used a very strong filter?????
>>
>> Anyway, great photos.
>>
>> As for trying the same thing, I think I'd advise three or four cameras.
>> Pull one in a week and if the film is nearly solid black you don't have to
>> continue with the other two.  If the one week image is pale pull the next
>> in a month.  Etc.
>>
>> By all means, keep us updated.
>>
>> Good luck   Charles, Portland Oregon
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