[alt-photo] Re: ziatype

EJ Photo ejnphoto at sbcglobal.net
Tue May 1 23:16:47 GMT 2012


In my work with glycerine as an additive to coating solutions, you'd need to
add a lot to get it sticky to a point of grabbing a neg. I'd expect a
problem more often with too high a pressure in general. Just because a
vacuum can draw 30 or 35 psi, does that mean you should always use it? 

I would add about 3 drops or so for an 11x14. I will need to go back and see
if that was tracked.  

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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: ziatype

Loris,

A stupid question..

If you add glycerine to the mix to get ziatype to work better in low
humidity, what keeps the emulsion from sticking to the negative?

Thanks,
Mark


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On May 1, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Christina Anderson wrote:

> Thanks, Loris,
> How many drops, Loris, per drop count? I have glycerin I could try. 
> 
> Anything to make Montana's lack of humidity work!
> 
> Good to know about the AFO because mine is old, too and I was wondering if
I should worry.
> Chris
> 
> Christina Z. Anderson
> christinaZanderson.com
> 
> On May 1, 2012, at 1:40 AM, Loris Medici wrote:
> 
>> Dear Christina,
>> 
>> Maybe glycerin can help in that regard: I can have full printout (with
>> pop pd) and a very neural color even at 22C / 30%RH, when I add
>> glycerin (another strong humectant) to the coating solution. Haven't
>> noticed any adverse effect so far...
>> 
>> I have AFO from two sources: 1. B&S, 2. Fluka, and both are in semi
>> opaque / white plastic containers. Those containers probably don't let
>> UV inside, because I still don't have any problems with the container
>> from B&S, 6-7 years after purchase, and with the Fluka container too.
>> (The - very similar material - Fluka container is relatively new, only
>> 1 year...)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Loris.
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/5/1 Christina Anderson <zphoto at montana.net>:
>>> ...
>>> It seems the fumed silica is another "hygroscopic" ingredient as is the
lithium
>>> pd and the cesium pd, all serving to keep moisture in the layer to make
a DOP
>>> more POP is what I gather from my reading.
>>> 
>>> I have some AFO here that I've had a few years. Funny, it is packaged in
a
>>> semi-opaque plastic container...guess it is not that light sensitive...
>>> ...
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