[alt-photo] Re: ziatype

[Richard Sullivan]

The opaque white container is UV opaque! Drugs that are light sensitive are
also packed in them. In fact that is why they were designed, not for
packaging AFO.<grin>

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Christina Anderson
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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: ziatype

Thanks, Joe and Loris and others offlist,

I was able to locate the ziatype manual from another listee. Good to know
the name isn't a big issue, just one of those "dustups" that the list is
known to participate in.

I had a chapter on it in my alt cond. book and in working on the revision of
that, I was just really wanting to know if I should keep that chapter in and
revise it, but after reading up and all over on the process I realize it is
still quite intriguing. It may even be intriguing enough to replace pt/pd in
my alt course with it, insofar as it is cheaper, and POP.

It seems the fumed silica is another "hygroscopic" ingredient as is the
lithium pd and the cesium pd, all serving to keep moisture in the layer to
make a DOP more POP is what I gather from my reading. 

I have some AFO here that I've had a few years. Funny, it is packaged in a
semi-opaque plastic container...guess it is not that light sensitive...
Chris

Christina Z. Anderson
christinaZanderson.com

On Apr 26, 2012, at 3:56 PM, JoeSarff at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Chris:
> 
> Having lived in New Mexico now for over five years, I'm going to take a  
> poke a at your questions.
> 
> The Zia, or sun symbol, is as ubiquitous to New Mexico and it's people  as

> oranges are to Florida, movies to California or the Yankees to New
Yorkers. 
> It's everywhere, from the state flag, to my drivers license to  nik-nak's 
> sold at tourist traps.  To call the process the Ziatype  (referring to
solar 
> printing out) is no big deal, not politically incorrect and  an insult or 
> affront to no one. 
> 
> I believe the process was always a subset of the more widely practiced  
> 'regular' platinum/palladium develop out process.  It was, I believe, more
for 
> people who had negs for more conventional silver printing who wanted to
see 
> them in platinum.
> 
> As to the book, books come in and out of print all the time.  I  believe 
> Carl Weese actually printed that one, not B&S.  I would look to  him for 
> answers.
> 
> Finally, as to the chemicals, 505/474-0890 and ask Leah or Dana.  I
really 
> don't know.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Joe Sarff
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 4/26/2012 9:15:25 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
> zphoto at montana.net writes:
> 
> Dear  All,
> 
> Over the last five months I have managed to slug through all the  archived

> emails from the list's inception. There's not much on Ziatype in  
> there...I've got only about 10 collated pages of notes on ziatype out of
750pp  all 
> told.
> 
> I went to B and S and see that the book on it is no longer  available, and

> it was called The New Platinum Print.
> 
> I noticed in the  archives there was some grumbling about the name 
> "ziatype" as being  inappropriate, using the name of a deity in the Native
American 
> religion to  describe a process seemed to be the argument, though "Zia" 
> means sun is the  other side of the argument. This was before I got on the
list 
> so I wasn't  aware of this discussion from 99 on.
> 
> Is that argument still valid or  merely usual list grumbling?
> 
> Is the process widely practiced or more or  less a sort of..."subset"...of

> pt/pd?
> 
> Is there no longer a book  available on the process, really?
> 
> I notice B and S still sells all the  chemistry so it must be being used
by 
> someone.
> 
> Any thoughts are  appreciated.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Christina Z.  Anderson
> christinaZanderson.com
> 
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