[alt-photo] Re: COT320

[Diana Bloomfield]

Clay,

Yes-- I think the hoarder mentality is definitely the way to go-- at least w/regard to paper.  I'm right there with you. 

But why these paper manufacturers can't simply leave a good thing alone is totally beyond me.  They should take a cue from the makers of Listerine.  

-Diana



On Feb 16, 2013, at 8:47 AM, clay harmon's personal website email account wrote:

> This discussion about paper variability brings up a subject that can be a little touchy in my household. 
> 
> I believe my spouse views me as having some hoarder tendencies, but if I find a paper that really works well, I will buy a fair quantity of it and store it in my flat files. Over the last dozen years or so, we have lost so many good papers, and others have had manufacturing changes that render them anywhere from difficult to useless for our purposes.  
> 
> Platinotype: gone
> Weston Diploma Parchment - wild batch variation in later years - I think it may be totally gone now
> Platine :  lots of batch-to-batch variation
> Fabriano Artistico EW - more and more buffer being added it seems - newer batches have required some serious acidification
> Whatman's Watercolor and Printmaking paper - gone
> Atlantis Silversafe : gone
> Staedtler-Mars drafting vellum: tremendous batch variation
> Swiss Opaline - gone
> 
> And now we are seeing these reports that COT320,  which heretofore has been a model of consistency may not be...
> 
> And the list is much larger than that. These are just ones I know about. It seems that when it comes to paper that just because it works well or is available today is absolutely no guarantee that it will be tomorrow.
> 
> Let's keep our fingers crossed that Revere both will be around for a while and will be more consistent that it has to date.
> 
> 
> So how is that for some Saturday morning hoarder rationalization?
> 
> -Clay
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 16, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Diana Bloomfield <dlhbloomfield at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Keith,
>> 
>> You know, when John told me that in all the (one thousand+) years Bergger has been making that paper, that no one (NO ONE) has ever lodged a complaint, I was totally flabbergasted..  While it is true that I do tend to complain an inordinate amount-- about every little thing--  I still found that very hard to believe-- and, yes-- transparently disingenuous.  Additionally, shouldn't I win a prize or something (at least a new pack of paper all tied up with a red ribbon) for being the very first?  And, seriously, if I had a dollar for every time a company rep has said that to me . . . 
>> 
>> I did write back and very nicely explained the first rule of business to him (the customer is always right).  Well, I probably didn't say it all that nicely. There's really no nice way to say that to someone.  But, for heaven's sake.  He wrote me back a second time and said he was sorry to lose me as a customer, but offered to send me a new pack of paper (and, again, to send my bad prints to France for a professional evaluation).   
>> 
>> Yes-- I really like the Revere very much.  
>> 
>> Thanks, Keith.
>> 
>> -Diana
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 16, 2013, at 1:23 AM, Keith Schreiber wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Diana,
>>> 
>>> So I guess that means he won't count Bob's & your complaints as "recorded issues", eh? Don't acknowledge the problem therefore it doesn't exist. Lovely logic. Actually, I think he is being a bit disingenuous since I remember discussion, here or on one of the other forums, about variable quality of COT320 in the past complete with batch numbers and I think he was a participant in that discussion.
>>> 
>>> Some time ago I think I mentioned here about the 22x30 COT320 that I special ordered thru B&S. It had cut edges like all COT320 and looked like every other sheet of that paper that I have ever used or seen, but it also had the Arches Platine watermark on every sheet. (I suppose Horowy would deny too!) Unfortunately, it didn't print as well as I needed and it was to complete a portfolio project so I returned it to B&S. 
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to trying Revere again.
>>> 
>>> ~ Keith
>>> 
>>> 
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