[alt-photo] Re: Preshrinking paper for gum?

[Ricardo Wildberger Lisboa]

Diana,
Have you already tried that (not sizing) on other brand's soft-press papers? With what results?
Ricardo.


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Em 17/01/2013, às 18:36, Diana Bloomfield <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net> escreveu:

> Hi Ricardo,
> 
> No, I never size it, and I use that paper only for gum printing.  I've printed up to as many as 6 layers, with absolutely no issues.  In fact, I had more issues when I did size.  
> 
> I *think* it was Paul Viapiano on the List here who first suggested this paper-- maybe someone else, too-- I can't remember-- but I've been using it now for a long long time, and I've just never had an issue with it.  I've told people about it before, but I think they never hear the word "soft-press," so you have to ensure that you're getting Fabriano soft-press, because (in my experience), the other Fabriano papers (labeled hot press; rough; or cold press) do not work like that.
> 
> Diana
> 
> On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Ricardo Wildberger Lisboa wrote:
> 
>> Diana and Denny, thank you for the information.
>> 
>> Diana, you say you don't even size on that paper? Don't you ever size the paper for gum printing?
>> 
>> Ricardo.
>> 
>> 
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>> Em 17/01/2013, às 16:30, Kurt Nagy <kakarott76 at hotmail.com> escreveu:
>> 
>>> I never preshrink either.  Only issues I have with registration come from my own lining up the negative
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 12:18 PM, "Denny" <dspector at charter.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Diana, thanks, "almost seemed pointless" pretty much sums up what I found.
>>>> 
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>>>> Diana Bloomfield
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>>>> 
>>>> Hey Denny,
>>>> 
>>>> I don't shrink paper anymore--- with the paper I now use-- but back when I
>>>> did (and I never did real tests on it like you)-- I realized, at some point,
>>>> that the temperature of the water didn't really seem to matter much.   And
>>>> really hot water seemed to offer bad results-- bad things happened with
>>>> really hot water.   Also, no matter how much I left it in water--
>>>> registration was still never perfect-- so it almost seemed pointless.  And
>>>> then I discovered the perfect paper that required no pre-shrinking (up to a
>>>> certain size), and no sizing-- so I put it all out of my head after that. ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Diana
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Denny wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Folks, I did some simple testing to try to evaluate how to shrink 
>>>>> paper, details here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.dennisspector.com/technotes/preshrink.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was surprised by the results, and I'm wondering if anyone else has 
>>>>> looked at this closely, what did you find?  Any noticeable effects of 
>>>>> water temperature?  Amount of shrinking?  (I'm sure these vary with 
>>>>> different papers, and I know some papers may not require any 
>>>>> preshrinking.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Denny
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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