[Alt-photo] Re: Epson printing tip

[Loris Medici]

Hi Sandy, FWIW, I use Agfa SelectJet/CopyJet, identical ink receptive
coating as Pictorico (curves are interchangeable) but with lower ~ log
0.2 (max!) base density.

Regards,
Loris.


On 17 Haz 2013, at 19:59, Sandy King <sanking at clemson.edu> wrote:

> The article mentions that the new Permajet Film has a lower base density than Pictorico. That would be a big advantage if true because the current generation of Pictorico Ultra Premium has a UV base density of about log 0.25. That adds almost a full stop to the exposure of digital negatives.
>
> Sandy
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Loris Medici wrote:
>
>> Another option could be the "new formulation" Permajet Film. See here:
>> http://artofplatinum.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/permajet-film-new-forumulation-vs-pictorico-film/
>>
>> I was using Ultrafine years ago with my dye based Epson (890 / 1290) and it
>> was working extremely very well with those dyes, not so well with pigment
>> inks. BUT, the only pigment inks I tested with Ultrafine wasn't any of the
>> current inksets - it was the first incarnation of John Cone's Piezography
>> Selenium Tone inkset.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Loris.
>>
>>
>> 2013/6/17 Marek Matusz <marekmatusz at hotmail.com>
>>
>>> Ultrafine transparency does not have as much ink holding capacity as
>>> Pictorico, but plenty for gum negatives. My workflow is QTR printing with
>>> 25% of yellow and 25% photoblack ink. WIth unidirectional printing it goes
>>> pretty slow and I never have issues with the ink not drying. WHen you start
>>> printing with light inks that add solvent but little ink density you might
>>> start running into issues even at low negative densities. QTR is so great
>>> as it allows for direct control of the inks (in a very simple way), both
>>> the amount that is used and ink selection.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marek
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: bobkiss at caribsurf.com
>>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>>> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:25:31 -0400
>>>> Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: Epson printing tip
>>>>
>>>> I have used Inkpress film with my Epson 3800 since I bought it years ago.
>>>> The only kink I had was some pizza wheel marks regardless of which of the
>>>> loading method I used. They were quickly solved by increasing the drying
>>>> time for each pass so I am very happy with this combination.
>>>> CHEERS!
>>>> BOB
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
>>>> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Sandy King
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:32 AM
>>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>>> Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: Epson printing tip
>>>>
>>>> I am surprised that the inks from the 3800 dry with the Ultrafine clear
>>>> transparency material. When I used it with the 3800 the ink would just
>>> sit
>>>> on the surface and never fully dry. I bought a lot of it so was pretty
>>>> disappointed, but I found out that the Ultrachrome worked nicely when
>>> used
>>>> between the negative and my sensitized carbon tissue.
>>>>
>>>> Sandu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Marek Matusz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All Happy Father's day to all alt fathers. I do have a tip for
>>> printing on
>>>> Epson printers, mine is 3800, but others might apply. I feel silly for
>>>> "discovering " it only after years of printing. I have been working on
>>>> another set of low color saturation gums (a la Chia) and printing 4
>>>> negatives each. At 11x14 size pictorico was too much in terms of cost so
>>> I
>>>> was using Ultrafine Crystal CLear transparency. However some of my
>>> negatives
>>>> were coming out in different size. It was curios as some of them were
>>> just
>>>> narrower by a quarter of an inch (something that I only discovered during
>>>> printing). Strangely enough the negative was cut off (or it's printing
>>> was
>>>> cut off) so that they still matched perfectly, but left a stripe of
>>>> unprinted layer on the paper. Today I came across a negative that was
>>> about
>>>> 3/8 inch narrower. I really could not tell what was happening. As of some
>>>> time I was putting a piece of blue painter's tape at the edge of
>>>> transparency (bottom) to make sure that the
>>>> pr
>>>>> inter will recognize the transparency as paper to feed it. Ultrafine
>>>> transparency comes with a white tape stripe along the long edge of the
>>>> sheet. I was always feeding it at the right edge of the printer (as you
>>> are
>>>> looking at the front of it) thinking that that where the sensor is
>>> looking
>>>> for an edge of the paper. I guess I was wrong. As soon as I placed the
>>> white
>>>> stripe on the left I got a consistent print (just like it would be on
>>>> paper). No need to add another tape edge along the short side. It took
>>> me so
>>>> many years to fix this intermittent problem. The other trick is to
>>> increase
>>>> platen gap from a standard setting. I was seeing some stripes on the
>>> prints
>>>> (venetian blinds) and as soon as I increased platen gap they went away. I
>>>> think this was mentioned a couple times over the years, but I never felt
>>> the
>>>> need to apply that. Anyways I finished 4 sets of negatives (4 negatives
>>> per
>>>> print) and printed black layer. A very productive weekend. Marek
>>>>
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