[Alt-photo] Re: Epson printing tip

[Sandy King]

The article mentions that the new Permajet Film has a lower base density than Pictorico. That would be a big advantage if true because the current generation of Pictorico Ultra Premium has a UV base density of about log 0.25. That adds almost a full stop to the exposure of digital negatives.

Sandy


On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Loris Medici wrote:

> Another option could be the "new formulation" Permajet Film. See here:
> http://artofplatinum.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/permajet-film-new-forumulation-vs-pictorico-film/
> 
> I was using Ultrafine years ago with my dye based Epson (890 / 1290) and it
> was working extremely very well with those dyes, not so well with pigment
> inks. BUT, the only pigment inks I tested with Ultrafine wasn't any of the
> current inksets - it was the first incarnation of John Cone's Piezography
> Selenium Tone inkset.
> 
> Regards,
> Loris.
> 
> 
> 2013/6/17 Marek Matusz <marekmatusz at hotmail.com>
> 
>> Ultrafine transparency does not have as much ink holding capacity as
>> Pictorico, but plenty for gum negatives. My workflow is QTR printing with
>> 25% of yellow and 25% photoblack ink. WIth unidirectional printing it goes
>> pretty slow and I never have issues with the ink not drying. WHen you start
>> printing with light inks that add solvent but little ink density you might
>> start running into issues even at low negative densities. QTR is so great
>> as it allows for direct control of the inks (in a very simple way), both
>> the amount that is used and ink selection.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marek
>> 
>> 
>>> From: bobkiss at caribsurf.com
>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:25:31 -0400
>>> Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: Epson printing tip
>>> 
>>> I have used Inkpress film with my Epson 3800 since I bought it years ago.
>>> The only kink I had was some pizza wheel marks regardless of which of the
>>> loading method I used. They were quickly solved by increasing the drying
>>> time for each pass so I am very happy with this combination.
>>> CHEERS!
>>> BOB
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On
>> Behalf Of
>>> Sandy King
>>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:32 AM
>>> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
>>> Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: Epson printing tip
>>> 
>>> I am surprised that the inks from the 3800 dry with the Ultrafine clear
>>> transparency material. When I used it with the 3800 the ink would just
>> sit
>>> on the surface and never fully dry. I bought a lot of it so was pretty
>>> disappointed, but I found out that the Ultrachrome worked nicely when
>> used
>>> between the negative and my sensitized carbon tissue.
>>> 
>>> Sandu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Marek Matusz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All Happy Father's day to all alt fathers. I do have a tip for
>> printing on
>>> Epson printers, mine is 3800, but others might apply. I feel silly for
>>> "discovering " it only after years of printing. I have been working on
>>> another set of low color saturation gums (a la Chia) and printing 4
>>> negatives each. At 11x14 size pictorico was too much in terms of cost so
>> I
>>> was using Ultrafine Crystal CLear transparency. However some of my
>> negatives
>>> were coming out in different size. It was curios as some of them were
>> just
>>> narrower by a quarter of an inch (something that I only discovered during
>>> printing). Strangely enough the negative was cut off (or it's printing
>> was
>>> cut off) so that they still matched perfectly, but left a stripe of
>>> unprinted layer on the paper. Today I came across a negative that was
>> about
>>> 3/8 inch narrower. I really could not tell what was happening. As of some
>>> time I was putting a piece of blue painter's tape at the edge of
>>> transparency (bottom) to make sure that the
>>> pr
>>>> inter will recognize the transparency as paper to feed it. Ultrafine
>>> transparency comes with a white tape stripe along the long edge of the
>>> sheet. I was always feeding it at the right edge of the printer (as you
>> are
>>> looking at the front of it) thinking that that where the sensor is
>> looking
>>> for an edge of the paper. I guess I was wrong. As soon as I placed the
>> white
>>> stripe on the left I got a consistent print (just like it would be on
>>> paper). No need to add another tape edge along the short side. It took
>> me so
>>> many years to fix this intermittent problem. The other trick is to
>> increase
>>> platen gap from a standard setting. I was seeing some stripes on the
>> prints
>>> (venetian blinds) and as soon as I increased platen gap they went away. I
>>> think this was mentioned a couple times over the years, but I never felt
>> the
>>> need to apply that. Anyways I finished 4 sets of negatives (4 negatives
>> per
>>> print) and printed black layer. A very productive weekend. Marek
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