[Alt-photo] Re: ALT- Lithophane, Wax Molding of Gelatin Relief and Contact Print with Wax Relief

[Dave S]

I have not seen wax lithophane but have seen porcelain one when I was in
France about 15 years ago. My memory on it is fading now, but if I remember
correctly, the relief seemed to be much deeper with carbon relief. For
carbon, you have to angle the print to see the "shallow" relief whereas the
lithophane that I saw had a clear relief like carving. Of course it doesn't
mean that shallow relief of carbon may not work, however.


Dave

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Mustafa Umut Sarac
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Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: ALT- Lithophane, Wax Molding of Gelatin Relief and
Contact Print with Wax Relief

Craig ,Thank you .
All , is there anybody who knows the depth of relief on wax lithaphone hand
carving master ? And can anyone compare gelatin relief to wax relief.

Umut


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Craig Zammiello <zamm at optonline.net> wrote:

> Umut,
> Ah, I see.
> Ok, I'm not familiar with these processes. Sounds very interesting.
> Best of luck,
> Regards, C
>
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac < 
> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Craig ,
> >
> > I am after roundness of hand crafted lithophane wax block lit from 
> > background.
> > I know carbon and pyro is after that but I am simplifying the all.
> > I am after making deep relief on to wax with using gelatin relief 
> > and
> than
> > using wax as my negative on the paper.
> >
> > If anyone and you share what you think , I would be glad.
> >
> > Best,
> > Umut
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Craig Zammiello 
> > <zamm at optonline.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mustafa,
> >> Not quite sure what you are after... Sounds kind of like a 
> >> stanotype I think, basically getting rid of the need of a hydraulic 
> >> press to create
> the
> >> lead plate of the Woodburytype process.
> >> Can you elaborate a bit more on what exactly your end goal is? Is 
> >> it the mechanical printing from a matrix or more-so a photographic 
> >> chemical reaction using a wax negative?
> >> Best, Craig Z.
> >>
> >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac < 
> >> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello ,
> >>>
> >>> I am thinking to reach a higher quality with Darwin the processes. 
> >>> I
> was
> >>> researching woodburytype , lithophane and carbon and found a 
> >>> hybrid
> way.
> >>>
> >>> I am thinking to contact print a 6x17cms negative on to 
> >>> dichromated
> >> gelatin
> >>> and obtain a relief like carbon. Than pour or press wax on to it , 
> >>> get
> a
> >>> wax block and than contact print with that wax block on to paper.
> >>>
> >>> Does it work and how can I engineer the whole process ?
> >>>
> >>> I want a hand carving wax relief and better result than the 
> >>> negative to contact print route.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Mustafa Umut Sarac
> >>> Istanbul
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