[Alt-photo] Re: ALT- Lithophane, Wax Molding of Gelatin Relief and Contact Print with Wax Relief

[Dave S]

Hi Umut,

No no. I didn't mean using photopolymer in place of the wax. I mean using
photopolymer in place of the gelatin, and then you can still make your final
thing in wax. Photopolymer is used to make rubber stamp, so you can imagine
it can easily achieve the thickness that you want whereas gelatin, I doubt
if you can get it to 5mm (that is .5 cm!) as you mentioned.

As for the particular brand, let me search around and let you know. I
haven't used it myself, but I do know a brand that is commonly used in
rubber stamp making and also photogravure. Are you in the US?

If you are googling around, search for "photopolymer for rubber stamps"
"photopolymer for photogravure."


Dave


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Mustafa Umut Sarac
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Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: ALT- Lithophane, Wax Molding of Gelatin Relief and
Contact Print with Wax Relief

Dave,

Thank you. My heart goes to wax but your suggestion is excellent and I had
been posted to APUG this morning. Which photopolymers could be purchased ?
And Where from ? Is it silk screening polymer ? I dont know any brand and
product. Please shed some light.

Thank you ,
Umut


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Dave S <fotodave at dsoemarko.us> wrote:

> Have you checked photopolymer plate? That might make things easy for you.
> You can buy the plate for experiments and if it works,  you can buy 
> liquid photopolymer and make your own plates.
>
> Dave
>
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> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mustafa Umut Sarac
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:20 PM
> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
> Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: ALT- Lithophane, Wax Molding of Gelatin 
> Relief and Contact Print with Wax Relief
>
> Hello all,
>
> I read cnc cut plastic lithophane tutorial.
>
> http://www.vectric.com/WebSite/Vectric/pvc/docs/Machining_Lithophanes.
> pdf
>
> White plastic requires 2.5 mm relief depth. Is it possible to make 5 
> mm thick relief with gelatin ?
>
> Umut
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Mustafa Umut Sarac < 
> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Craig ,Thank you .
> > All , is there anybody who knows the depth of relief on wax 
> > lithaphone hand carving master ? And can anyone compare gelatin 
> > relief to wax
> relief.
> >
> > Umut
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Craig Zammiello
> <zamm at optonline.net>wrote:
> >
> >> Umut,
> >> Ah, I see.
> >> Ok, I'm not familiar with these processes. Sounds very interesting.
> >> Best of luck,
> >> Regards, C
> >>
> >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac < 
> >> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello Craig ,
> >> >
> >> > I am after roundness of hand crafted lithophane wax block lit 
> >> > from background.
> >> > I know carbon and pyro is after that but I am simplifying the all.
> >> > I am after making deep relief on to wax with using gelatin relief 
> >> > and
> >> than
> >> > using wax as my negative on the paper.
> >> >
> >> > If anyone and you share what you think , I would be glad.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Umut
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Craig Zammiello 
> >> > <zamm at optonline.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Mustafa,
> >> >> Not quite sure what you are after... Sounds kind of like a 
> >> >> stanotype I think, basically getting rid of the need of a 
> >> >> hydraulic press to
> >> create the
> >> >> lead plate of the Woodburytype process.
> >> >> Can you elaborate a bit more on what exactly your end goal is? 
> >> >> Is it
> >> the
> >> >> mechanical printing from a matrix or more-so a photographic 
> >> >> chemical reaction using a wax negative?
> >> >> Best, Craig Z.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac < 
> >> >> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hello ,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am thinking to reach a higher quality with Darwin the 
> >> >>> processes. I
> >> was
> >> >>> researching woodburytype , lithophane and carbon and found a 
> >> >>> hybrid
> >> way.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am thinking to contact print a 6x17cms negative on to 
> >> >>> dichromated
> >> >> gelatin
> >> >>> and obtain a relief like carbon. Than pour or press wax on to 
> >> >>> it ,
> >> get a
> >> >>> wax block and than contact print with that wax block on to paper.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Does it work and how can I engineer the whole process ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I want a hand carving wax relief and better result than the 
> >> >>> negative
> >> to
> >> >>> contact print route.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thank you,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Mustafa Umut Sarac
> >> >>> Istanbul
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