Re: Gum v Gloy & albumen/tempera.

Peter charles fredrick (pete@fotem.demon.co.uk)
Sat, 24 Feb 1996 01:37:29 +0100

>What is Gloy
I have just read 'A Poor Man's Fresson'
This spell checker cannot spell ! ! ! even with it's UK add on and I do not mean
Fresson.<

I understand Terry I cant spell either, but neither could not Charles Dickens

>I hope that this is not picking at scabs but if you not harden the first coat
>of
gum first, how does it provide any protection under the denser parts of the
negative.<

Terry you can pick my scabs any time as long you are prepared to put up
with the puss.
The thing is the whole mechanism is based on a soluble layer. The non
image layers are protected by an excess of size working rather like the law
of mass action,no more room on the bus.

I agree that we do have a problem with the labelling of processes. We
should get some international accord in this respect

Your other question what is a 60% solution of gloy, simple it is 60ml of
gloy gum into which is added 40ml of pure water, by my reckoning this must
very near a 60% solution

>Did I not run that workshop at Richmond that Pete mentioned.. The man who took
a week to prepare his paper for gum prints was a good example of those who live
in limbo over complicating things <

No you are far to sensible, you did not run this workshop. It was a B Shaw
who took part in it and also wrote an article in the Photographic Journal
of the RPS at a similar time to yourself.

>Gum printing is easy with gum, Gloy and albumen, all with continuous tone
negatives on water-colour paper<.

> I have used whole egg but it needs plasticised
paper and tone separations to make it work without flaking.<

I challenge this statement. I personally have have never had a problem of
this nature and have printed onto, canvas, wood, glass, plastic,ceramic's
and paper to be crude this colloid sticks like S **T to a blanket on almost
any surface.

>As to numbers of coatings. More than one coat gives subtlety of tone and
gradation and, most important of all, colour.<

Am I being an old fuddy duddy to want that in my gum prints ?

Of course not ,go for it Floyd it is the only way to go.

Terry King.
cheers pete.