<If people were to read these lists they would find that I have never insulted
you although I have suggested that you can be over sensitive.>
What if you yourself were not sensitive enough? I usually try to take this into
consideration for myself.
< You, like Judy. seem to take disagreement with your views as an insult.>
I had long discussions with both of them and NEVER got the impression I could
insult them as long as we were discussing - i. e. not exchanging "facts" but "
aspects" that were as well-founded as possible. It more seems to me that you
take any disagreement with your experience as personal attack. As a peace-loving
man you then rather say: 'We never disagreed' than getting to the bottom of that
problem - which could end up with the realisation that either both are correct
(or wrong).
<I would have answered your questions if they had been couched in a form that
was capable of rational answer. I found the discussions to which you refer so
full of factual error and illogical argument that I concluded that they were not
worth pursuing.>
It would have been interesting to see you analyzing "factual error and illogical
argument " in these discussions. To me this offensive remark for which you
should apologize makes me suspect that you didn't understand these discussions
at all. On the photo.hist list and here Ron's contributions were absolutely
rational, logical and to the point. As a professor for holistic and aesthetic
education at the University of Toronto he certainly is trained to do so. The
problem was that these were topics related to theory and that you couldn't or
didn't want to understand the standpoint Ron and others took.
<I will not tell you how persons not on the list described these discussions
for fear of offending you.>
Yes, everybody has the friends he deserves. This really insulting remark
provokes to hold up a mirror: Don't you fear that there could be more persons
outside who think of you that way?
<Basta, Basta, Basta.>
Aha, again: you are the one to decide when to stop? Is there a danger that the
ground below your feet becomes too hot? (Sorry, literally translated from
german). Judy, Ron and now me have not posted our mails because we wanted to
make you angry or distinguish ourselfs. We really appreciate your knowledge and
merits. But you can imagine that the water in this pot was cooking for quite a
while before it swapped over. If grown-up people (all teachers, surprise,
surprise ;-)) decided to write me a public mail and risc that this falls back on
them, even risc that this gets on the other's nerves, I should start
overthinking my position. Terry, please reflect the dominant position you take
on this list. Please take into account that some people on this list may find
that pushy.
I, for instance, don't write much at the moment because I have a time problem.
But I am surprised to see, that many questions to which some months ago I
thought I was "responsible" for are well answered by others.
I think we all are happy that this list is not moderated. By this it is purely
democratic - or even anarchic, full of atmosphere and serving international
understanding. It deserves more tolerance and calmness than we probably would
concede in our private live. So let's cool down again and behave in a way that
we all enjoy this place.
Klaus Pollmeier