Re: Vandyke again, was Re: Salted Paper

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From: James Romeo (jromeo@iopener.net)
Date: 06/22/00-03:24:02 PM Z


Hi
Vandyke does not use a developer after exposer you develop it in water. It will bleach in
a strong fix.You must use a weak hypo.
I tone them in a gold toner;
You can see some of mine in www.pinholeformat.com
Take care
James Romeo
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From: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: Vandyke again, was Re: Salted Paper
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:10:00 -0400

At 11:33 AM -0400 6/22/00, Sil Horwitz wrote:
>You're talking apples and oranges! Salt paper is a silver process,
>while VanDyke is an iron process which just uses silver as the image
>element. Action is totally different - salt paper does not require a
>developer, for example, while VanDyke does. Not having used VanDyke
>for a number of years, I'd have to go run back over my notes.
>Possibly others in the group who are presently using the process can
>comment more fully. Just remember, though, that salted paper is an
>elemental silver process, with no helpers, while VDP is a DOP
>process. Whole different mindset required!
 
Oops. There goes another theory I thought was getting warm. You'll
have to pardon my lack of knowledge in chemistry here.
 
So, silver nitrate is used in Vandyke just to make the image? If that
is the case, why would strong hypo bleach it just like it would
silver? Or is the resulting image a combination of silver and iron?
By DOP process, are you saying that hypo is doing double duty here,
as both a developer and a fixer?
 
If you do come across your notes, please illuminate us about toning
Vandyke prints.
 
Sam Wang
 


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