From: Amy Cutting (amos1979@home.com)
Date: 05/16/00-09:15:50 PM Z
I'm just wondering, is he soaking in Pakosol or the like before squeeging it
to the glass? I thought that prints first soaked in that
solution aren't supposed to stick? Maybe hardening the first few layers of
gelatin to create a base for the other layers to sit on and then after
applying subsequent layers of gelatin, soaking the print in Pakosol and
squeeging it to the glass might prevent it from sticking and give it a
glossier finish. I realize that's quite a bit of work. I'll see if I can try
it out tomorrow as I've got all the supplies, just not much time as it's
summer cleaning time in the lab, ouch. Amy Cutting
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod Fleming <rodfleming@sol.co.uk>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: Ferrotyping Alt. Prints. (original question)
> Hm
>
> I had a funny feeling that might happen. I think it's back to an in depth
> study of the support paper and how to get sufficient thickness of gelatin
> that it can form a smooth surface over any irregularities in the
substrate.
>
> What about producing the print in the normal way and then adding layers of
> gelatin later to build up the thickness? I think you may have to
experiment
> with hardeners.
>
> I don't see you getting there quickly with this, because I think you're
> going to have to do some exhaustive research into papers and gelatins, but
> persevere- if you can get it to work you'll have developed an entirely new
> technique, which has to be worth something.
>
> A final thought- have you considered getting in touch with Ilford (since
> you're in UK), letting them know what you're trying to do and seeing if
any
> of their research people could help? They might be chary about giving away
> technical secrets of advantage to a competitor, but the idea has potential
> for some good publicity for them- might help.
>
>
> Rod
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Liam Lawless" <lawless@ic24.net>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:15
> Subject: Re: Ferrotyping Alt. Prints. (original question)
>
>
> > Sorry, folks - a complete disaster. Stuck solid. Did something similar
> > once and got it to work some of the time, but don't remember exactly
what
> or
> > how.
> >
> >
> >
> > Liam
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Liam Lawless <lawless@ic24.net>
> > To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
<alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> > Date: 15 May 2000 02:13
> > Subject: Re: Ferrotyping Alt. Prints. (original question)
> >
> >
> > >Tony,
> > >
> > >Sounds like your weak gelatin is disappearing into the texture of the
> > paper.
> > >As well as trying stronger, it might help to paint the glass with it as
> > >well. As it happens, I have some 12% gelatin that I'm using for
> something
> > >else - will give it a go tonight and report back tomorrow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Liam
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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