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Re: bubbles in gelatin



I have used chrome alum and gelatin (from photographer's formulary) as a sub 
for my liquid emulsions and i have never gotten any staining or 
discoloration.  the bubbles seem to disappear - on tiles anyway.  if you coat 
slowly the bubbles seem to stay at bay, however, as i hurry, the bubbles 
appear, but on drying disappear.
jill

In a message dated 10/10/00 11:27:46 PM, dsbryant@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< Sandy and Judy,

> I think something other than the glyoxal caused the discoloration. I

> have never had any problem of this type with either glyoxal or

> formalin. On the other hand, I have experienced discoloration (bluish

> stain)  using Chrome alum.


The use of Chrome alum as a hardner with gelatin has given me similar

results. I've used a piece of plate glass to lay the gelanitin/hardener

saturated paper on and then gently rolled the paper with a rolling bin to

"push" the excess solution out. There were a few bubbles but the rolling pin

took care of those. One side of the paper should be marked as the back side.

This is the side that the pin rolls on which leaves the other side as the

unroughed printing surface. I got no curl after drying. The paper was

pre-soaked  in very hot water to pre-shrink the paper, then hung up to dry

before hardening. I wasn't happy at all with the blue/violet stain but I had

no "curling", only wavy paper as one would expect.


Don Bryant


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