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Re: Off Topic - Zia/Political Correctness, was Re: specks and ziatype

Cactus,  I also posted on this many months back.  The Zia search that will have
relevance to human dignity will be found under news, not under some other
commercial enterprise.  The state of New Mexico uses it as the state symbol,  an
action that has angered many.  I suggest that you look into the archives.   There
could be many other names that would also have been appropriate to the process but
they were not used.

Respectfully,

EJ Neilsen
ex patriot of New Mexico

Judy Seigel wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Cactus Cowboy wrote:
>
> > What's so terribly offensive about using "Zia" to describe a photographic
> > process?  I agree with Nze Christian; it is a "good name for a sun sensitive
> > process", given the meaning behind the symbol.
> >
> > I must take issue with Judy's contention that "Meanwhile & of
> > course,"politically correct" is more flexible than George Bush's math."  In
> > fact, "political correctness" is one of the most inflexible and intolerant
> > dogmatic codes to ever emerge from the radical left.  For the champions of
> > PC, I remind you that (in the U.S.A. at least) it's still a free country,
> > we're guaranteed freedom of speech (thanks to the Constitution), and nobody
> > has the right to never be offended.
>
> Shucks Cowboy, I thought you were going to defend Bush's math, so at least
> I don't have to deal with that. In my own experience, PC is often absurd,
> but not necessarily any more inflexible and intolerant than calling folks
> concerned with such issues "radical left"  (tsk tsk!). In fact regular
> garden variety moderate might consider the epithet itself worse than "PC"
> on the grounds that hostility is worse than sanctimony (tho that's
> obviously a very personal decision).
>
> But lest I stray further into deep water, let me offer a for-instance. One
> such double view that leaps to mind is recent GIANT kerfluffle in NYC
> schools when teacher in mostly black school read children book about
> "nappy" hair. In even middle-of-road circles such is considered wholesome
> and constructive building of self esteem, hardly radical goals. Among the
> school parents, however, the term "nappy" was mortal insult (perhaps
> showing need of the book !!). The teacher was practically burned at the
> stake. I could cite several such episodes without even breathing hard, but
> have to get something else done today.
>
> Obviously the folks who chose the name "zia," considered it innocuous,
> also appropriate. However, there has been a HELLUVA hassle about it, still
> I gather picking up steam. The point is that exactly its common commercial
> use dilutes and degrades the sacred term. So if you live in Santa Fe,
> might not be your best choice --especially for a business concerned with
> PR if not PC. In the same way, talking "nappy hair," ESPECIALLY in view of
> the kerfluffle, might be considered rude and provocative.  To make the
> issue a matter of "first-amendment rights" might in fact be seen as, um,
> dogmatic.
>
> best,
>
> Judy
>
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