From: Brian Ellis (bellis60@earthlink.net)
Date: 03/10/01-01:34:06 PM Z
Yes,any faults with the copyright system are undoubtedly the lawyers' fault,
pulling off all those scams that they're always doing. I'd be very
interested in reading the two cases that you talked about. Could you provide
me with a cite to them?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Portale" <jportale@gci-net.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Still on Copyright
> This has been an interesting thread. To address your question Nick,
another
> mail list owner wanted to place all the list emails on a CD and sell them
to
> the members for the cost of reproduction. No real profit. His legal
> beagles informed him that he needed to get the written permission of every
> person that posted to that mailing list. I will surmise that if the email
> is sent to a central and common repository, and your intent was to allow
> people to read the email, no problem. But once another takes control of
> that email, that is where things get sticky.
>
> Editorial comment. For the most part, I believe that the idea of copy
right
> protection is a good one. It does protect us from having our work taken
by
> others. The unfortunate question is in today's market, who is being
> protected? Are we really concerned with the rights of the other person's
> intellectual property or have we fallen victim to scam by lawyers trying
to
> turn a fast buck? When is enough, enough? These are extreme examples,
yet
> they are real. A Japanese firm copy righted the view from a California
Golf
> Course and sued three photographers that took pictures of that vista and
> published them in various commercial magazines. (I'm taking mountains and
> ocean view folks, not someone's house. Check me if I'm wrong, but doesn't
> the world belong to everyone?)
> A major publishing company found a distant relative of Herman Melville.
And
> in his name, sued in federal court for the past and future profits from
the
> work Moby Dick. There was an active search for relatives of people like,
> George Fennimore Cooper, Henry David Thoreau, Stephan Crane and others.
Are
> these people really interested in defending the rights of these greats? I
> doubt it.
> So the question for debate is: You create an email, send it to a public
> list, such as this, should that email be treated as intellectual property
> and copy rightable? These are not private letters, they have been sent
into
> the world to be read by all. Comments?
>
>
> Joe Portale
> Tucson, AZ
>
> Fellin' a little preachy this morning.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nick Makris" <nick@mcn.org>
> To: "Alt Photo" <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 9:37 AM
> Subject: Still on Copyright
>
>
> > While we're on the subject, what about email messages found on the web?
> You
> > may or may not know that all the messages you send are not only
archived,
> > they are catagorized by several of the major search engines. Try
> searching
> > for your own name and see if the results don't include a message you
sent
> to
> > the list some time back.
> >
> > In any case, what is the consideration for copyright of these messages?
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Nick
> >
>
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