From: Steve Shapiro (sgshiya@redshift.com)
Date: 05/14/01-10:43:47 AM Z
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From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:48 AM
Subject: predictable Sabatier
>
>
> On Sun, 13 May 2001 Smieglitz@aol.com wrote:
>
> > ... Also, I defy anyone to make a *predictable* sabatier effect on
> > film or paper and duplicate the results...not that I'm saying anyone
should
> > be doing this. PS lets you do it in a second using the curve function
on a
> > file.)
>
> Actually Joe, having printed only Sabatier for 6 or 7 years, maybe more, I
> promise that if you pay attention, time the first & second exposures,
> & the interval between them, and use two trays of developer so your print
> goes into the SAME developer each time, not one being continually changed
> by by-products, the process is very controllable & predictable (within
> limits -- about like gum printing) ... also far more beautiful (in my
> experience) than digital "sabatier" which lacks the subtlety & variation,
> also the silvery midtones...
>
> I generally did both exposures through the negative, so whites stay white
> & the mackie lines are black, white, or gray -- explained in detail P-F
> #2, along with methods of 6 or 8 other Sabatier printers who also had
> their techniques well in hand (& all different).
>
> Judy
>
In both agreement and elaboration on fine points of consistency (gads, I'm
sounding like some debilitated Englishman) I stand in defiance.
To control my Sabattier I make the exposure, emerse in the developer and
when the mid tones begin to appear put it back under the same light, without
negative, for exactly 1/3 the time and derive perfect results e v e r y s i
n g l e t i m e.
If, on the other hand, the Mackie line is less defined or the overall print
is too dark, I adjust accordingly by tenths from that beginning time of one
third of the original time for a print projected through the negative. At
minimum, the Sabattier is one third of one tenth of the actual exposure
time, but without the negative under the light.
Steve Shapiro, Carmel, CA
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