From: Nick Makris (nick@mcn.org)
Date: 11/09/01-03:47:34 PM Z
I'm must be having a bad hair day????
Sorry about my use of acronyms without reference - FS and color inks below.
For those of you who followed this thread closely, I congratulate you on
keeping pace with my cryptic references. For most everyone however, FS
stands for Full Spectrum which is what MIS calls their new Quadtone pigment
based inks, ie, MIS Quadtone FS. The "color inks" reference is just that -
it is unrelated to FS and is the standard CMYK set of inks, either by Epson
or a 3rd Party.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Makris" <nick@mcn.org>
To: "Alt Photo" <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:50 AM
Subject: Pictorico Again was large ink-jet printers
> While what Larry says (see below) regarding Krylon may be effective, I
have
> seen the distinct banding that Jeffrey referred to earlier in this thead.
I
> have seen no banding whatsoever with the 1160 and other media - either
with
> FS or Color inks. This banding alone is reason enough not to use
Pictorico,
> at least until I get a workaround.
>
> As for the Piezo ink, I didn't by any bottles because I had decided to
test
> with the cartridges that come with the system before committing my "first
> born" (read that as outrageously expensive) to the CIS for the system.
And
> since those cartridges (which have somewhat less ink than the OEM carts)
ran
> out early on and since I wasn't very happy with the early results, I
haven't
> tested those inks on many media and can't speak to any comparisons.
>
> Moreso, the FS inks dry very well and quickly on all media I tested,
> including some glossy paper and the Epson Backlight film.
>
> You may recall my recent problem with backlight film - well I may have
> figured out what is happening. I'm waiting for the UV Blockage test
results
> before filling the list in - recall that Ed Stander offered to perform
that
> test and I have sent him a sample of the Epson Backlight film.
>
> While I was typing this, I received a callback from Pictorico Tech Support
> (Chip Pryor) - they can be reached on 1-800-899-5009. He indicated that
the
> film will show banding at resolutions below 740 +/-. He also said that
they
> don't know of ANY 3 PARTY INKS THAT WORK 100% WITH PICTORICO OHP FILM -
> color or quad tone. That's a pretty all encompassing statement and I
> therefore would like to here from anyone who is using this film.
>
> More to follow.
>
> Nick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Roohr" <lrryr@home.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:46 AM
> Subject: RE: large ink-jet printers
>
>
> > Nick,
> >
> > You need to apply a clear spray over the ink on pictorico, Krylon
Crystal
> > Clear Acrylic works well and is cheap.
> >
> > Does the FS quadtone dry as well as the piezo ink?
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick Makris [mailto:nick@mcn.org]
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:11 AM
> > To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> > Subject: Re: large ink-jet printers
> >
> >
> > Kees, Gord and all,
> >
> > Well, this is like dejavu dejavu. I have just begun to test Pictorico
on
> an
> > 1160 with MIS Full Spectrum Quadtone inks. It appears to be a NO GO and
I
> > have a call into Pictorico tech support. The ink appears to dry ok,
> > however, it just sits on the film and if you barely touch it, the image
> gets
> > scratched. I have the Piezography system and I have given up on the
> > associated inks. I believe both inks are pigment based - I'm guessing,
> but
> > apparently dye based will sink in, but the pigments sit on the surface.
> > More to follow on this one.
> >
> > I have been recieving the Epson list post for a couple of months now and
> > people rave about the large sizes and quality of the images produced by
> the
> > 5000 through 9500 model Epson printers. I think you could pass a
> billboard
> > through one of these models.
> >
> > Also, I just emailed Dan B and he's on vacation.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kees Brandenburg" <info@co-web.org>
> > To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: large ink-jet printers
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > > Pictorico sells rolls of their Premium OHP Transparency Film, Size:
> > > 17" width (66' length, 2" core)
> > >
> > > http://www.pictorico.com/roll.asp
> > >
> > > Never used pictorico though. I'm wondering if someone tried this
> > > 'film' with my setup which is: MIS FS and/or PiezoBW quad black inks
> > > in an epson 1160. Will the MIS inks give good results on this
> > > pictorico film?
> > > I'm hesitating ordering because pictorico is not availeable in
> > > Europe. For the moment I'm using Schoellershammer #6
> > > inkjettranparancies (max. A3) or Epson photo quality inkjet paper
> > > (max. A2) for my negatives.
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Kees
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hi:
> > > >
> > > >This is a digital alt-photo question really ... :)
> > > >
> > > >Our department is considering buying a large inkjet printer. The
kind
> > > >that does at least a three foot wide output.
> > > >
> > > >Its primary purpose will be to make posters for scientific
conferences.
> > > >It could also be used to make very large digital negatives :)
> > > >
> > > >How large can one get good transparency stock?
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone have any experience with these. I'm being asked to help
> > > >determine what should we should buy.
> > > >
> > > >Please reply to me offline. I'll summarize my findings back to the
> list.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >
> > > >Gord
> > > >---------------------------------------------------------
> > > >Gordon J. Holtslander Dept. of Biology
> > > >holtsg@duke.usask.ca 112 Science Place
> > > >http://duke.usask.ca/~holtsg University of Saskatchewan
> > > >Tel (306) 966-4433 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
> > > >Fax (306) 966-4461 Canada S7N 5E2
> > > >---------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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