From: Philippe Ayral (payral@club-internet.fr)
Date: 09/01/01-04:04:31 AM Z
May be you can order it from B&H or Calumet (USA) as I do and it works.
I tried Bergger BPF and didn't like it as much as Tri-X so, I order it from USA ,
one box of 100 sheets at a time.
It's a bit expensive but worth of it.
Manuel Gomes Teixeira wrote:
> Sandy,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> To be honest I didn't try this BPF with other developers beecause I was
> interested in obtaining negatives that could be printed in both contact
> methods Pt/Pd, Silver POP and with conventional VC paper for enlargements.
> Nevertheless I was intending to use other developers than Pyro but after
> reading your post I'm quite pessimistic about it.
>
> Here in Portugal is impossible to find 5x7 sheet film from Kodak, Ilford or
> Bergger. Tri-x, even abroad as U.K. (Silver Print) or Austria (Lotus View
> Camera) it is not available . I suppose Kodak simply doesn't sell this size
> in Europe .So the only alternatives I have is HP5 or Ortho+ that is quite
> difficult to get.
> I think that in a near future the only choice we will have in 5X7 will be
> Bergger that will catch the abandoned customers from Kodak and Ilford, so is
> is a pity that we can't make BPF to work.
>
> Concerning HP5+ Carl Weese wrote in " The new Platinum Print":
>
> The film retains its heavy fb+f and printing through this thick density can
> result in some annoyingly long print exposures.
>
> in conclusion: what alternatives can we have?
>
> Greetings
>
> Manuel Gomes Teixeira
>
> Punctum Studios
> Portugal
> EU
>
> > From: Sandy King <sanking@clemson.edu>
> > Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:15:58 -0400
> > To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> > Subject: Re: POP choices
> >
> >>
> > Just as a curiosity, have you gotten enough contrast for POP with BPF
> > and developers other than Pyro? My own experience with BPF is that it
> > does not respond positively beyond a certain CI to increasing
> > development times, period, irrespective of developer. There is
> > something about this film that causes it to shut down when it reaches
> > a certain CI, and prolonged development beyond this point does
> > nothing but increase b+f.
> >
> > Sandy King
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hi Carl,
> >>
> >>
> >> This topic of pyro developed negatives to use both with POP silver and Pt/Pd
> >> is very interesting to me because I've concentrated myself on this two
> >> methods for contact printing and discussions about this matter are
> >> practically absent.
> >>
> >> I use BPF with Rollo Pyro from Lotus View Camera in Expert drums and the
> >> results I got until this moment are not entirely satisfactory.
> >> With normal developing times the contrast is simply not enough for POP and
> >> I tried to give longer times but overall B+F+Stain increased to a level
> >> that the exposure needed to UV is to long with the related problems.
> >> I've tried as you recommend in "The New Platinum Print" : "strengthening
> >> the developer and cut the developing time" but I didn't solve the above
> >> described problem.
> >>
> >> Perhaps I'm missing something concerning pyro development.
> >>
> >>
> >> greetings
> >>
> >> Manuel Gomes Teixeira
> >>
> >> Punctum Studios
> >> Portugal
> >> EU
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Carl Weese <cweese@earthlink.net>
> >>> Organization: Carl Weese Associates
> >>> Reply-To: cweese@earthlink.net
> >>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:37:26 -0400
> >>> To: Alt-photo-process <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> >>> Subject: POP choices
> >>>
> >>> James,
> >>>
> >>> Assuming you will have access to a darkroom for film development (4x5
> >>> film in trays doesn't take much space): FP4+ in PMK pyro will give you
> >>> negatives you can print in POP silver, and then later print in Pt/Pd or
> >>> on standard variable contrast silver paper. Pretty good combination. It
> >>> gives high acutance if that's what you're after. As for obtaining it in
> >>> Japan, just take a couple dry packaged kits from ArtCraft Chemical with
> >>> you. Each will make 50 liters of working solution which is enough for an
> >>> enormous number of 4x5's. The mixed stock solutions have excellent shelf
> >>> life. Tri-X/PMK is another good pair. TMX and HP5 are more trouble
> >>> getting enough contrast for POP processes. Of course observe proper
> >>> precautions for handling pyro which is more toxic than more ordinary
> >>> developers.---Carl
> >>> --
> >>> Web Site with picture galleries and workshop information
> >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~cweese/index.html
> >
> >
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