From: Eric Neilsen (e.neilsen@worldnet.att.net)
Date: 04/29/02-06:52:15 PM Z
Chris, You may also be able to try pecans. They have a husk similar to
walnuts, and after harvesting them last year I can report that they have
very similar properties to the walnut trees I grew up with.
I should have pounds and pounds come the fall.
EJ Neilsen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@montana.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: black walnuts
> I can't believe Kremer sells it!!
> Well, I found a source online already, today. It was someplace in
> Maine that sold basketweaving stuff, and I ordered a pound of hulls for
> $3.50 (big purchase, huh) and will test it out in the coming week.
> Now, go figure this one out for me Laszlo et al: the tea print I
left
> outside for 2 days in hot mt sun is DARKER where the sun hit it. For a
> moment I thought it was just the heat that made it darker and it would
fade,
> but I switched the positioning of the print 2 times so there ends up being
> one square that is not sun touched, one square only sun touched 1 day, and
1
> 2 days, and the lightest of all is the unsunned square. It must be that
the
> sun tans the tea further, and not that this is totally scientific by any
> means, but it does make me less cautious about the lack of archivalness of
> tea toning as far as UV fading is concerned. So, I guess if you want to
> hasten the aging look of a print by staining highlights and shadows, tea
> wouldn't be a bad choice--unless you have walnuts in your back yard.
> I have also since found out other nuts work, like pecans.
> Now, about acidity as per below: the walnut stain is so acidic that
> one source says to not store it in plastic because it'll eat thru it--so
> store it in glass! So maybe the archival worries are not about fading of
> the toning but the eating away of the print. Hmmm. (sometimes I wonder
why
> the heck I get off on these weird tangents that I just can't lay to rest
> until I've tried it--if my time were money, this black walnut goose chase
> would make the toning cost about $350, not $3.50. And to think Terry has
> them in his/her back yard...)
> chris
> >
> >
> > Here's another source for your black walnut dye. Good 'ol Kremer
> > Pigments in New York City sells Walnut Hulls (cut pieces) for $4.50 for
> > 100 grams.
> >
> > There is a water-based ink sold by Daniel Smith called WALNUT DRAWING
> > INK that, from the product description, has the look of traditional
> > walnut ink, but is made with (unnamed) modern pigment. Their catalog
> > description reads, "It's rich color resembles traditional walnut-based
> > inks, but will not fade and, at 7.9 PH, is far less acidic." So it
> > seems that Daniel Smith is suggesting that walnut hull dye does fade,
> > and apparently, is acidic. Sounds like you'll need to do some testing!
> > Be sure to let us know your results.
> >
> > Laszlo
> >
> >
>
>
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