Re: black walnuts

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From: terry lindquist (tsll@localnet.com)
Date: 04/30/02-06:09:07 PM Z


Christina:
...it is "his"...not "hers..."
terry

on 4/29/02 19:11, Christina Z. Anderson at zphoto@montana.net wrote:

> I can't believe Kremer sells it!!
> Well, I found a source online already, today. It was someplace in
> Maine that sold basketweaving stuff, and I ordered a pound of hulls for
> $3.50 (big purchase, huh) and will test it out in the coming week.
> Now, go figure this one out for me Laszlo et al: the tea print I left
> outside for 2 days in hot mt sun is DARKER where the sun hit it. For a
> moment I thought it was just the heat that made it darker and it would fade,
> but I switched the positioning of the print 2 times so there ends up being
> one square that is not sun touched, one square only sun touched 1 day, and 1
> 2 days, and the lightest of all is the unsunned square. It must be that the
> sun tans the tea further, and not that this is totally scientific by any
> means, but it does make me less cautious about the lack of archivalness of
> tea toning as far as UV fading is concerned. So, I guess if you want to
> hasten the aging look of a print by staining highlights and shadows, tea
> wouldn't be a bad choice--unless you have walnuts in your back yard.
> I have also since found out other nuts work, like pecans.
> Now, about acidity as per below: the walnut stain is so acidic that
> one source says to not store it in plastic because it'll eat thru it--so
> store it in glass! So maybe the archival worries are not about fading of
> the toning but the eating away of the print. Hmmm. (sometimes I wonder why
> the heck I get off on these weird tangents that I just can't lay to rest
> until I've tried it--if my time were money, this black walnut goose chase
> would make the toning cost about $350, not $3.50. And to think Terry has
> them in his/her back yard...)
> chris
>>
>>
>> Here's another source for your black walnut dye. Good 'ol Kremer
>> Pigments in New York City sells Walnut Hulls (cut pieces) for $4.50 for
>> 100 grams.
>>
>> There is a water-based ink sold by Daniel Smith called WALNUT DRAWING
>> INK that, from the product description, has the look of traditional
>> walnut ink, but is made with (unnamed) modern pigment. Their catalog
>> description reads, "It's rich color resembles traditional walnut-based
>> inks, but will not fade and, at 7.9 PH, is far less acidic." So it
>> seems that Daniel Smith is suggesting that walnut hull dye does fade,
>> and apparently, is acidic. Sounds like you'll need to do some testing!
>> Be sure to let us know your results.
>>
>> Laszlo
>>
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