From: epona (acolyta@napc.com)
Date: 08/28/02-03:30:14 PM Z
Um, I agree with Shannon. 13 years in a school of the Great Desert Monotheism
made me feel guilty about anything erotic. You cannot deny that Christianity has
preached sex = bad, except when procreating within a Church-approved union, of
course, but never for enjoyment, no. The great desert monotheism is NOT what *I*
am. I am Great Earth Mother, recovering Catholic, working on stripping myself of
all that guilt, desperately trying to stop saying "I'm sorry" for everything.
But that is probabaly WAY more than you needed to know about me!
Before I start a religious war, I would like to mention I think Jesus is great.
I think he would cry if he could see how twisted his legacy has become. I would
love to make a bumper sticker that says "I love Jesus - it's his fan club I can't
stand!"
Cheers,
Christine
jeffbuck@swcp.com wrote:
> "The great desert monotheisms" came along and made us feel guilty and silly?
> Is that really what you think of Christianity, Judaism and Islam? You make
> them sound like some dopey little insects that flew out from the creek mud to
> buzz around in our ears till we got up and grabbed the ingenious fly-swatter
> of politically-correct romanticism in 1965 and swatted them all gone.... The
> great desert monotheisms are what we are. -JB
>
> shannon stoney <sstoney@pdq.net> said:
>
> > Jonathan wrote:
> >
> > >Have you ever asked what photography (and the images) might want or need
> > >*from you*?
> > >
> > >Have you ever considered that an image may have its own reasons for being??
> > >
> > >Perhaps your role in image-making should be as a *facilitator,* rather than
> > >*originator*???
> > >
> > >The latter leaves the personality in complete control: you - the
> personality
> > >"you" - has to puzzle out intellectually, deductively, THE ANSWERS. The
> > >former allows the process and, more importantly the *image* - a voice in
> the
> > >outcome. You bear witness to the results - and are either interested in
> > >them or you're not. Perhaps the world speaks to us through ATTRACTION. It
> > >could be our connection with the world is essentially an erotic one!!!!
> > >Wouldn't that be grand!?!?
> >
> >
> > This is a very helpful idea. I think I am going to try it on for a while.
> >
> > IT sort of appeals to a certain pagan sensibility too. Maybe this is
> > the way most people related to the world until the great desert
> > monotheisms came along to make us feel guilty or silly about being
> > attracted erotically to, say, peppers or seaweed or the opposite sex.
> >
> > I saw some nudes in the most recent Aperture today that I liked a lot
> > but that almost seemed to defy you to call them exploitative. There
> > were some real crotch shots, as well as blatantly sexy, even slightly
> > s and m, pictures of nude women. But they were made by a woman! I'm
> > sorry that I can't remember the photographer's name right now. She
> > is Hispanic. IF a series of images like this appears in a magazine
> > like Aperture, maybe it means that the culture has turned some sort
> > of corner, and is no longer obsessively worried about whether nude
> > photographs are politically correct.
> >
> > Also today I saw a show in a gallery, and some of the photographs in
> > this show did offend me. IT was interesting to have the experience of
> > "being offended" by a photograph. The photos that upset me were
> > photographs of children with craniosacral abnormalities or bad burns,
> > which made them look strange and even freakish. It seems in really
> > poor taste to me to photograph people mostly because they are funny
> > looking. I know Diane Arbus got away with it, sort of, but maybe she
> > shouldn't have. I wonder why this offends me, but nude pictures of
> > beautiful young women do not? IT seems really exploitative to me, as
> > does photographing people simply because they are poor. It seems
> > voyeuristic. Maybe there is an element of voyeurism in a great deal
> > of photography that involves people, but some of it seems healthy and
> > some seems a bit National Enquirer-ish.
> >
> >
> > But maybe Nancy Burson, who made the photographs, was "attracted" to
> > this subject in the way that Jonathan describes, and so maybe my
> > assumption that she was somehow exploiting the shock value of a
> > person's birth defect is incorrect.
> >
> > --shannon
> > --
> >
>
> --
-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead; his eyes are closed." -Albert Einstein
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