From: Peter Marshall (petermarshall@cix.co.uk)
Date: 02/15/02-08:45:21 AM Z
Alejandro,
I think this is the point that I was making. The view from the window
remains clearly the first verified photograph. Gernsheim I think used the
term 'photograph from nature' to make it even clearer
Niepce brought I think 5 examples of his work to England when he came
here. One was a photograph (now in Texas) and the others were examples of
his photographic etching, I think one plate and some prints. The plates
were I think made by contact printing under oiled paper originals.
I think these prints are photo etchings rather than gravure. I don't know
how accurately they were dated, although probably he brought his more
recent and better examples with him. There is one that has appeared in a
number of books with the date 1822, but books usually get the dates wrong.
I think a couple of these are in one of our UK museums and the others in
Texas, but its a month or so since I wrote about this.
Peter
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> Hi Peter:
>
> As far as I know, what is being auction at Christies-Paris, is the
> "first
> ever photographic document in the world", which was printed as a
> "gravure"
> from a "copper plaque", since Niépce at that date-1825- didn't know how
> to
> fix a lasted image. He had succeeded in printing his photographic image
> from a copper plate where he then made a gravure.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alejandro López de Haro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Marshall" <petermarshall@cix.co.uk>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Calotypes / Southeby's
>
>
> > > The estimate at Southeby's for the Niepce, which also includes 35
> > > letters totalling 150 pages, is E750,000. But I think it will go
> > > much
> > > higher. BTW, does anyone know of an account, besides Kingslake, of
> > > the
> > > lenses used by the French calotypists?
> > >
> > >
> > Isn't the Niepce on sale there actually the world's first photocopy
> > and
> > the first existing photograph - also by Niepce - still on show in
> > Texas?
> >
> > Gernsheim decided that this item was priceless, and was given it
> > without
> > charge, handing it on without valuation when he sold his collection.
> >
> > (Assuming of course we don't take the claims about the Turin shroud
> > being
> > a medieval photograph seriously. I think it is a nice story.)
> >
> > Peter Marshall
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>
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