Re: "Good" Wagner

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From: Alejandro Lopez de Haro (alhr@wanadoo.fr)
Date: 02/27/02-03:04:46 PM Z


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From: "Alejandro Lopez de Haro" <alhr@wanadoo.fr>

Hi Stimpy:
Here is the thread from where you were quoting my quote: "La chambre d'art imaginaire".

 Anyhow, there is a wonderful book by André Malraux: "Le musée imaginaire". Is a must read book for us art lovers. Besides the concept of the "imaginary museum", he also introduces another concept: "the song of change" (traduction of Alberto Manguel)("le chante de
la metamorphose"). This concept is about how, we contemporary viewers are able to establish a dialogue between all forms of art that we have seen from
either our time or from other times and how we use this knowledge when we are viewing a work of art. Because of this knowledge, we are able to have different responses to what we are viewing creating in us an "imaginary museum".

As we can see, the more we see the more we are able to have a larger "imaginary museum". Hence, the more we have seen the more profound this dialogue would be. In my case, I haven't yet finish my "Chambre d'art imaginaire." And I presume I never will.

Regards,
 
 Alejandro López de Haro

>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alejandro Lopez de Haro" <alhr@wanadoo.fr>

´---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------
> Or along the line of André Malraux, "the imaginary museum" (Le musée
> imaginaire), we could call it: "La chambre d'art imaginaire".
>
> Alejandro López de Haro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Grafist@aol.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: What is "Good Photography"?
>
>
> > In a message dated 23/02/02 05:52:26 GMT Standard Time, jseigel@panix.com
> > writes:
> >
> > > Brilliant art is humbling
> > ............................................
> > Judy and all, I dont know whether anyone would agree with the view that
> > one's concept of Art or art depends to a large degree on one's sense of
> > humor. Re the Turner prize thing......next year I am considering
> submitting
> > "The Mystery of Art" which would consist of telling the public that the
> work
> > of fine art (F/Art) exists within a locked room which will never be
> opened.
> > There would be a large padlock on the door of the gallery in which the
> work
> > exists. Gallery staff would be sworn not to divulge the contents of the
> room.
> > Of course, the room would be completely empty....or would it?....except
> for
> > what each person would imagine was in the room. Or, there would really be
> > nothing in the room except the work of F/Art.
> > This week I have been mostly studying the wind and how to
> photograph
> > it.
> > The hares have returned, already.
> > Best. Got to have my dichro fix.
> > John- Photographist - London - Angleterre
> > P.S Good photography is when all your holiday snaps come out nice.
> > "laissez les bon temps (avec nos images) rouler."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stimpy" <stimpy@freedomdrivingaids.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Cc: <alhr@wanadoo.fr>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:07 AM
> Subject: Re: 'Good' Wagner
>
>
> > Didn't Twain attribute this quote to Bill Nye?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Eugene:
> > >
> > > Please do not enter my "Chambre d'art imaginaire" :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alejandro López de Haro
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robkin, Eugene" <erobkin@uwc.edu>
> > > To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:50 PM
> > > Subject: "Good" Wagner
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> For what it is worth.
> > >>
> > >> The quote about Wagner's music is attributed to Mark Twain: "Wagner's
> > >> music is better than it sounds." I haven't dug deep enough to tell
> > >> where or when he said that.
> > >>
> > >> The locked room with the art work (La chambre d'art imaginaire) as
> > >> described does not meet the requirements to be an example of a
> > >> Schroedinger's Cat experiment. Check the Internet. There is
> > >> sufficient explanation there for this purpose.
> > >>
> > >> As far as discussions of what is "good" ________ is concerned (You can
> > >> fill in the blank to suit yourselves) there is a Latin proverb that
> > >> covers the ground as well as anything can.
> > >>
> > >> De gustibus non disputandum
> > >>
> > >> There is some good mathematics here to reinforce the proverb but that
> > >> discussion should be off list.
> > >>
> > >> ER
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Howey
> > Manager of Information Systems
> > Freedom Group, LLC.
> > www.freedomgroupllc.com
> > 901 Salzburg Rd.
> > Bay City, MI 48706
> > 989-895-9433
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Alle Kinder gehen über die Strasse, nur nicht Rolf, der klebt vor'm Golf.
> >
>
> ´---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------
> Or along the line of André Malraux, "the imaginary museum" (Le musée
> imaginaire), we could call it: "La chambre d'art imaginaire".
>
> Alejandro López de Haro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Grafist@aol.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: What is "Good Photography"?
>
>
> > In a message dated 23/02/02 05:52:26 GMT Standard Time, jseigel@panix.com
> > writes:
> >
> > > Brilliant art is humbling
> > ............................................
> > Judy and all, I dont know whether anyone would agree with the view that
> > one's concept of Art or art depends to a large degree on one's sense of
> > humor. Re the Turner prize thing......next year I am considering
> submitting
> > "The Mystery of Art" which would consist of telling the public that the
> work
> > of fine art (F/Art) exists within a locked room which will never be
> opened.
> > There would be a large padlock on the door of the gallery in which the
> work
> > exists. Gallery staff would be sworn not to divulge the contents of the
> room.
> > Of course, the room would be completely empty....or would it?....except
> for
> > what each person would imagine was in the room. Or, there would really be
> > nothing in the room except the work of F/Art.
> > This week I have been mostly studying the wind and how to
> photograph
> > it.
> > The hares have returned, already.
> > Best. Got to have my dichro fix.
> > John- Photographist - London - Angleterre
> > P.S Good photography is when all your holiday snaps come out nice.
> > "laissez les bon temps (avec nos images) rouler."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stimpy" <stimpy@freedomdrivingaids.com>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
> Cc: <alhr@wanadoo.fr>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:07 AM
> Subject: Re: 'Good' Wagner
>
>
> > Didn't Twain attribute this quote to Bill Nye?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Eugene:
> > >
> > > Please do not enter my "Chambre d'art imaginaire" :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Alejandro López de Haro
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robkin, Eugene" <erobkin@uwc.edu>
> > > To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:50 PM
> > > Subject: "Good" Wagner
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> For what it is worth.
> > >>
> > >> The quote about Wagner's music is attributed to Mark Twain: "Wagner's
> > >> music is better than it sounds." I haven't dug deep enough to tell
> > >> where or when he said that.
> > >>
> > >> The locked room with the art work (La chambre d'art imaginaire) as
> > >> described does not meet the requirements to be an example of a
> > >> Schroedinger's Cat experiment. Check the Internet. There is
> > >> sufficient explanation there for this purpose.
> > >>
> > >> As far as discussions of what is "good" ________ is concerned (You can
> > >> fill in the blank to suit yourselves) there is a Latin proverb that
> > >> covers the ground as well as anything can.
> > >>
> > >> De gustibus non disputandum
> > >>
> > >> There is some good mathematics here to reinforce the proverb but that
> > >> discussion should be off list.
> > >>
> > >> ER
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Howey
> > Manager of Information Systems
> > Freedom Group, LLC.
> > www.freedomgroupllc.com
> > 901 Salzburg Rd.
> > Bay City, MI 48706
> > 989-895-9433
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Alle Kinder gehen über die Strasse, nur nicht Rolf, der klebt vor'm Golf.
> >
>


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