From: Peter Marshall (petermarshall@cix.co.uk)
Date: 01/12/02-05:01:40 PM Z
I too thought _all_ albumen prints yellowed with age. James M Reilly put
it 'it is probably safe to say that not a single albumen print survives
from the 19th Century without some degree of staining in non-image areas'
and I think there is little reason to argue with him. You can read more
about it in his book on the albumen site,
http://albumen.stanford.edu
It is often very difficult to tell a matte albumen print from a salt print
visually. When I looked at a number of prints in the RPS collection some
years back I had strong suspicions that many labelled albumen print were
actually salted paper prints. If they are matte and not yellowed they are
probably not albumen.
Of course salted paper prints and albumen prints both often fade, and
again this is pretty well inevitable unless great care is taken in
storage.
Peter Marshall
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> Sandy,
>
> I have seen orginal Watkins prints of Yosemite that are neither yellow
> or
> cracked. Since these are the oldest prints , with the exception of
> salt, in
> the world I think this is our best example. The salt prints that I have
> seen, only pictures of them, ...now they seem faded or worse. Most
> likely
> due to poor fixing I would suspect. This of course leaves out tintypes,
> ambrotypes and Dags which are all doing well. Once again most likely
> due to
> their substrates.
>
> ..-----Original Message-----
> ..From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
> ..Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:36 AM
> ..To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> ..Subject: RE: Albumen - How Archival
> ..
> ..
> ..Yes, we still have them but they have all either already yellowed, or
> ..will yellow with more time. As far as I have been able to determine
> ..there is nothing to stop or reverse the yellowing process.
> ..
> ..Sandy King
> ..
> ..
> ..
> ..>We still have them from the mid 1800's. Gold toning is
> ..recommended. I think
> ..>the paper type is the biggest concern once toned.
> ..>
> ..>..-----Original Message-----
> ..>..From: George Huczek [mailto:ghuczek@sk.sympatico.ca]
> ..>..Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:44 AM
> ..>..To: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
> ..>..Subject: Albumen - How Archival
> ..>..
> ..>..
> ..>..If done properly, how archival can one expect albumen prints
> ..to be? Does
> ..>..anyone have any suggestions for how increased permanence can
> ..be obtained
> ..>..with this process?
> ..>..
> ..>..
> ..
> ..
> ..--
> ..
>
>
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