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Re: Pt/Pd printing with various lights



Title: Re: Pt/Pd printing with various lights
Sandy,  As platinum and palladium have different response curves, you have been only able to test an undetermined coating with three different light sources.  I would not make any conclusions about all platinum/palladium coating based on these test.  Since platinum and palladium are both speed sensitive with regard to humidity, they indeed have been shown to react to differing wave lengths to produce different yields, I find your test to be too loose to "prove" anything beyond that all three react to your lights with equal +/- results.
 
 
EJ Neilsen
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandy King
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Pt/Pd printing with various lights

Eric,

I agree that if the purpose of my test had been to compare the absolute speed of different processes it would have been best to coat, dry, expose and develop all of the samples in my environment. However, the  purpose of these tests was not to determine the absolute printing speed of the Pt/Pd material vis a vis another printing process,  but its relative speed with different lights. In that sense I believe that the results of the test are very reliable. I made three different test prints with each light and results were almost identical for all three tests made with a specific light. If any one test had been off with respect to the other two it would be reasonable to suspect a difference in speed or contrast in the samples and that would of course have invalidated the test results.  Since this was not the case, however, I am reasonably certain that these results are valid.



Sandy

 






Sandy,  I would think that a better test would be to coat them yourself.  Speed changes in paper and contrast may change to much sitting for a day or more.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Sandy King
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: Pt/Pd printing with various lights

A few weeks ago I posted some preliminary observations on the use of different UV sources with Pt/Pd.  As you may recall I exposed a Stouffer TP 45 step wedge to paper coated with Dick Arentz' Pt/Pd Mixture #7, using the following light sources: 1) 20 watt Phillips BL, 2) 20 watt GE BLB, 3) 75 watt  URI Super Actinic, and a 1000 watt HID-Mercury Vapor lamp. Today I read the densities of the tests and plotted curves with Davis' Plotter program, with the following results.

                        BL      BLB     SA*     HID

Speed Point             2.5     2.4     2.3     2.2
Exposure Scale          1.31    1.36    1.23    1.31
IDMax                   1.17    1.20    1.23    1.31

* I also tested the 20-watt Phillips Super Actinic tubes and the results were virtually identical to that of the 75-watt URI tubes.
*The HID-Mercury Vapor lamp was tested with a center filter which reduces printing speed by about two full stops. Without the center filter this lamp is faster than at least one full stop than any of the other lights.

For those not familiar with the above terms, here is some explanation of terminology.

The Speed Point indicates the  speed of the material and is expressed here in relative terms. The higher the number the faster the printing speed. The values are in log units where each value of 0.1 represents one-third of a stop, or 0.3 corresponds to one full stop. Thus, the BL tubes turned out in these tests to be one-third of a stop faster than the BLB tubes, two-thirds of a stop faster than the SA tubes, and one full stop faster than the HID-Mercury Vapor lamp (with the center filter).

Exposure Scale is the range between the minimum and maximum density values required to print all of the tonal values. It is also expressed in log values, with each 0.3 units corresponding to one stop. An ES of 1.3, for example, corresponds to 4 1/3 stops. ES relates to image contrast, the lower the number the higher the contrast.

IDMax is the value that corresponds to 90% of maximum black.


There have been quite a number of claims that Super Actinic tubes are faster than BL and BLB tubes for printing in platinum. My tests show the opposite. However, the SA tubes did produce images with more contrast than any of the other lights.

Just for the record I ran the tests three times and the results were very consistent. Over 95% of all readings of the three tests made with a specific light source were identical, and no difference greater than log 0.02 was observed.

Comments and questions about these tests are welcome.


Sandy King

 
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