From: Christina Z. Anderson (zphoto@montana.net)
Date: 01/16/03-09:42:28 AM Z
It is alkaline, containing ammonia, and is not just acrylic. Still waiting
for the MSDS on my fax. I did not try it on gum yet, but will. I can
compare that to Don Bryant's suggestion of hydrocoat polyuerethane. It has
not gone back to the turquoise yet in 24 hr, but will watch it. But it
still smells like a spring breeze :) Makes me think of cleaning my floor.
Since I hand colored this cyano, my concerns are whether it makes the
watercolor pigment bleed or not. If it does, then it wouldn't work for me,
with water based pigments anyway. And if it makes colors bleed, then that
might affect gum, if it can somehow get into the hardened gelatin. I can't
tell from my test print whether it bled the colors or not. Also, the bottle
of the stuff is big; too bad it isn't in smaller quantities. But I suppose
a $5 dead end is worth the testing anyway.
I probably should leave this test print outside in the Montana sun to
see if it bleaches or yellows, too. I certainly couldn't get any info as to
its archivalness out of the "Helen Johnson" spokesperson at Johnson Co. She
was a walking disclaimer.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: "Alt Photo List" <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Future acrylic floor polish and dmax
> Christina, That was from me, so could we please have credit for the
> Wednesday home section of the NY Times, which I think is insufficiently
> appreciated on this list. Thanks for testing it -- now I'll
> have to get some too.
>
> My hunch, BTW, if it changed the color of the cyanotype, is that it's
> alkaline, some kind of ammonia substance in it. But usually that deeper
> richer blue from ammonia fades back to "normal" when the print has fully
> dried, in a couple of days. So hope you'll watch it.
>
> Meanwhile, it may not be "just" acrylic, or whatever, as some folks
> suggest... At least the "regular" acrylic brushed on that I tried didn't
> change depth more than a tiny tad. Have you tried it on gum? that's the
> killer -- hardest to get any good effect. And, for the record, I found
> gelatin did NOT help -- gave a kind of diffuse glassy look as a top coat
> that was definitely ugly.
>
> Judy
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
>
> > While wading through the 978 messages in my inbox (OHHH, btw, I
have to
> > tell you all that when I went to Japan I brought with me 199pp of single
> > spaced, 11 pt. type, notes from the alt list and the silver list, and
EDITED
> > them for two weeks into categories, for better retrieval on my part; one
of
> > the tidbits in my notes was this Future floor polish thing. My goal for
the
> > new year is to test cyanotype, van dyke, tintype, salted paper, and gum
now
> > that I have finished testing all the experimental processes I ever need
to
> > and then some...) I took the time to go grocery shopping with my husband
and
> > bought Future acrylic floor finish. He was shocked when I put it in the
> > cart, I'm sure, thinking I was actually going to do some cleaning (ha),
but
> > for $5 I thought it'd be worth a try, as someone had mentioned that you
can
> > use it to make dried leaves glossy and archival for table decorations
and
> > maybe it had applications to increase dmax of alt prints. So I brushed
it
> > onto an old cyanotype and it was interesting! It did raise the dmax of
the
> > print and gave it a mild gloss, but what it also did was change the
color of
> > the cyanotype away from the warmer turquoise-ish blue that it is
normally to
> > a richer, more navy blue. And it smells good, too. Has anyone else
tried
> > this since the original poster mentioned it?
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
>
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