RE: Reducing negative density

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From: Vincent Dobson (manitec@bellsouth.net)
Date: 01/30/03-04:14:13 PM Z


Well they are supposed to work being the trade secret of portrait
photographers for their magical ability to make pimples and acne disappear.

I can't speak from experience in that I've yet to encounter a pocked bark
tree embarrassed by it's acne. So my unit is doing a good job keeping the
top shelf of my storage cabinet from floating off into oblivion.

Vince Dobson
Visions In Nature
www.VisionsInNature.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Healy [mailto:mjhealy@kcnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:03 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Reducing negative density

Vince, I'm glad you warned us. If I'd stumbled on that photo unawares, I'd
have thought it was an antique prop from one of those 1930's sci-fi movies I
used to watch on "Creature Feature". Do either of you guys happen to know
whether this thing makes noises while it works? I suppose you could install
a digital connection so it produced the sounds of dental grinding or
concrete cutting every time it hit the poor film surface. As far as ways to
remove those pesky emulsion scratches, that would make this WAY more
appealing than an orbital sander.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Dobson" <manitec@bellsouth.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: Reducing negative density

Speaking of that --- here's one for sale with an opening bid of $20. It
might take $50 to get it. I bought mine on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3003271979&category=29988

Vince Dobson
Visions In Nature
www.VisionsInNature.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mike King [mailto:mikeking@cableone.net]
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:29 PM
  To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
  Subject: Re: Reducing negative density

  Traditionally? Look for an Adams retouching machine. Basically a box
with a vibrator in it so that you don't need to move your hand. And some
sort of magnifier so you can better see what you are doing. You add density
with pencil and remove it with a scalpel or needle. I picked up one for
$20.00 US (they originally sold for hundreds of dollars). It doesn't work
needs a simple repair but I've found I get better results either with Spot
Tone and Spot-Off on the print or in Photoshop (if I need to produce a
larger quantity of prints.

  darkroommike

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Neil Miller
    To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
    Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:38 AM
    Subject: Reducing negative density

    Hello all - after all the wonderful help I received fom this group with
a previous problem, I thought I'd try you with another. I am looking for
something to reduce negative density i.e., to reduce the thickness of the
emulsion layer on sheet film.

    I have tried jewellers rouge on the end of a cotton bud and with lighter
fluid as a medium, but have had no luck. It just seems to polish the
emulsion (after prolonged rubbing) without really removing any of the
gelatin layer - it just seems too fine. I tried metal polish, too, with
marginally better results: it bites into the emulsion, but I have to polish
for such a long time and with such a force that I lose control over the area
of emulsion which I am trying to reduce.

    I have also tried a very sharp exacto knife, but instead of "shaving
off" very thin layers it just removes all the emulsion right down to the
film base or it leaves darker "stress" marks.

    The reason I am trying to this? To subtly retouch/remove small
blemishes/cliche verre.

    Many thanks,
    Neil.

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