CCBaggett@aol.com
Date: 07/31/03-04:12:56 PM Z
Judy/Keith,
I received the new Daniel Smith catalog yesterday and here is what
they say about Dr. Martin's:'....good lightfastness and are great for fine art
applications.'
'These pigmented watercolors are not to be confused with Dr. Martin's
dye-based Radiant Watercolors, which are not lightfast.' As stated previously testing
is in order. I have not used these but have used Createx (burnt sienna,
ultramarine blue and carbon black) with casein and no staining problems.
Cheers,
Charlie
In a message dated 7/31/2003 12:49:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jseigel@panix.com writes:
>
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Keith Gerling wrote:
>
> >No, I haven't tested them. Thanks for that info. I've been dumping that
> >stuff willy-nilly into all kinds of batches. Good thing I haven't really
> >liked any of the prints, huh? :-)
> >
> >Keith
>
> Actually, it's my understanding that in a MIX a fugitive color may be less
> so. That is, I read in the Artists Equity newsletter a while back that an
> EARTH COLOR, such as lamp black, will give some protection to colors that
> would otherwise fade in UV light.
>
> Sometime when I'm looking for something else I'll come across that item
> (here from memory) &will share...
>
> I never heard of Mixol, but I assume the Createx has dispersal agents...
> Once I found it didn't clear I abandoned it. Another studio in the
> East Village, name of Guerra (if memory serves), does a similar pigment in
> wet mix which also does not clear. They told me it had a dispersal agent
> --- a damn shame, because a cheap source of intense &archival color would
> be sooooooo convenient.
>
> My e-email queue is in a state of near-terminal hypertrophy, and I doubt
> I'll get it sorted out in this lifetime. But I recall that someone asked
> what KIND of dispersal agent I'd found doesn't work. He named 3 species,
> distinctions I was totally unaware of. But I can say that the "Universal
> Dispersant" that Golden paints gave me to try is an Octylphenoxy
> polyethoxl ethanol, as written by hand of the CEO Mr. Golden on the label.
> Does that answer any questions? It didn't work horribly.
>
> Actually I doubt it's so much the particular dispersal agent type as the
> fact of dispersal-ism.... sending the pigment so thoroughly into the paper
> fibers it won't come out.
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> >
> >PS. Haven't tested Mixol or Createx, either. Any word on those?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com]
> >Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:00 PM
> >To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> >Cc: alt-photo-process-error@sask.usask.ca
> >Subject: RE: Gum Pigments
> >
> >
> >
> >>In addition to watercolor pigments, I use dry pigments, Dr. Martin's
> >>Concentrated Watercolor, Createx airbrush colors, Sumi ink, and Mixol
> >>pigments. All work well.
> >
> >Keith, have you tested the Dr. martin's for fading? I know their dyes are
> >extremely fugitive -- the watercolors possibly less so, but you might want
> >to check.
> >
> >J
> >
> >
>
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