From: Niranjan Patel (niranjan.patel@worldnet.att.net)
Date: 10/06/03-02:52:27 PM Z
Pam:
I agree with you. I do not understand why photographs have to be
"truthful." Is any art truthful? What is the "truth" in art? The
original scene as is seen by the eye or the interpretation from the mind of
the photographer? As a matter of fact, is not the Black and White
Photography itself the first step in filtering the "true" colored world
into gray scale to highlight that which is not visible in reality? If it
takes photoshop to realise your vision, then so be it. I think the final
image, its meaning, context and the effect on people who view it should be
the final judge of art.
Niranjan.
Disclaimer: I am no "artist" and I like to do the so-called straight
photography, having just barely began to use Photoshop.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pam Niedermayer" <pam@pinehill.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: neo-Pictorialism
> Certainly, Photoshop makes manipulation much easier; but I fail to see
> why anyone even says anything about "lying". Such manipulation in almost
> all cases, excepting those with financial gain and/or those trying to
> avoid prison sentences, is about realizing a vision, whether that vision
> exists in reality or not. The very fact of taking a photograph is one of
> selecting the view at hand and rejecting all others, so every photograph
> is very subjective. Even Weegee selected some shots and rejected others,
> thus putting his mark on what he and his viewers considered important.
> And then there's burning and dodging.
>
> Pam
>
> shannon stoney wrote:
>
> > ...
> >
> > I think the thing about photoshop is that it makes "lying," as Clay
> > put it, SO much easier. Jerry Uelsmann is a master of the manipulated
> > image, but he has been at it for thirty years. Any fool can learn to
> > "lie" with photoshop in an hour or so, and lie very convincingly in a
> > few days.
>
>
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