From: Don Bryant (dsbryant@mindspring.com)
Date: 09/05/03-10:18:21 PM Z
Robert,
I've been told by the FedEx people that they will not or do not x-ray
packages shipped by air. I've considered that as a possibility but haven't
tried it yet. You may wish to follow up with your local FedEx office for
more information.
Don Bryant
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Schaller" <Robert@RobertSchaller.net>
To: "alt photo" <alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: flying....
> Dear All,
>
> This has been a persistent question of mine, as I often carry film
when
> I travel. I have had mostly good experiences, getting hand inspections in
> LA, Istanbul, and Vienna in the last year, but not in Denver, where I have
> to fly out of when I go. They give that "less than 400 ASA" assurance,
more
> recently even a "less than 3200 ASA" assurance, and so far it's been ok,
but
> I wonder what that means: if we figure that commercial gelatin-silver film
> has, say, 8 stops of latitude, does that mean that if I shoot film at ASA
> 400, any details will be lost that were 4 stops dimmer than the center of
> exposure (zone 5)? Or, if 3200 is the number, does that mean that my
> latitude is only three stops on the dim side, since 3200 is 3 stops faster
> than 400? What, exactly, is the effective EI for these machines?
Wouldn't
> that be a more useful number, one that we photographers could take into
> account? Don't we, in some sense, have a right and need to know what
> intensity of just what sort of radiation our materials are being subjected
> to? I know that I often push film, or use other developers and other
speeds
> than those officially recommended, so that the assurances about speed are,
> for me, less than fully informative.
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Robert Schaller
>
> On 9/5/03 10:08 AM, "Scott Walker" <walker@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Regarding X-ray bags... On the older machines they tell you that they
won't
> > expose the film under 400 ASA. If you put them in X-ray bags and it
obscures
> > the image as it goes through the machine they turn up the intensity of
the
> > x-ray to get a picture through the bag which is worse.
> >
> > In Detroit they now have machines that are so strong that there are
signs
> > telling you that your film WILL be exposed if left in the luggage. They
were
> > happy to hand inpect which means they open every 35mm canister and swab
it
> > with a cloth which they then check in a machine for ionic residue from
> > explosive chemicals.
> >
> > In other airports (recently) I have been refused hand inspection and
they
> > put it through the machine (older type) as a matter of policy. Then
again I
> > have had just the regular hand inpection as well.
> >
> > I always carry my film with in a ziplock and try my best to work with
the
> > inspectors to keep it out of the machines.
> >
> > Scott.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: epona [mailto:acolyta@napc.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:53 AM
> > To: alt-photo-process-l@sask.usask.ca
> > Subject: Re: flying....
> >
> >
> > X-ray bags? where do i get those??????
> >
> > thx,
> > ~christine
> >
> > Dchiap2 wrote:
> >
> >> I flew to Italy last September via Amsterdam; I hand carried all my
film
> >> (pola 55, 120 tmax 100 and 400, and 120 color neg) in xray bags, and
had
> >> it hand inspected. No problems at all, and no rudeness; actually
anyone
> >> who hand inspected it seemed nicely curious about photography and what
I
> >> was doing. But it's probably just about who is actually on duty for
> >> hand inspecting any given day. The downside is that if you have a lot
> >> of film it can be cumbersome to lug around the airport etc.
> >>
> >> Re: Scotland - Sweetheart Abbey, and Castle Campbell stand out it my
> >> mind, as does Edinburgh and the small towns just south of Edinburgh.
> >>
> >> Don Chiappinelli, LCSW
> >> dchiap@msn.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: epona [mailto:acolyta@napc.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:26 PM
> >> To: the gurus
> >> Subject: flying....
> >>
> >> Hello folks,
> >>
> >> Hope you are all well. I'm flying to Ireland next week and I was
> >> wondering if you all had any advice about film and security. I shoot
> >> type 55 which is rather slow (50 asa) and may make it through the
x-rays
> >>
> >> but I wasn't sure how much worse things may have gotten post 9/11.
> >> Caryy on and insist hand-checking? Or pack with luggage? I hear they
> >> X-ray that as well....
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Christine
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > The animals of the world exist for their own reasons. They were not made
for
> > humans any more than black people were made for white, or women created
for
> > men.
> > ~ Alice Walker
> >
> >
>
>
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